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Grindhouse

happyfilmluvguy

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anselmo1 said:
I personally find Tarrantino's movies violent, repulsive and disgusting. To some it up in a nutshell, he is no King Vidor or Howard Hawkes. It is a good thing he has powerful friends in Hollywood such as Nicholas Cage otherwise, he might still be working in a video store.

I think that's the idea he goes for. He's done his job!
 

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The Wolf said:
I saw a movie that was made as a double feature of two movies as if they were made back in the day. It even had new trailers in between the two movies. A fun thing they did was a couple of actors from one movie also played different characters in the other film.
Oh, by the way, the movie I mean is this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077952/ not this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462322/

Sincerely,
The Wolf

That one looks like fun.
 

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I had a bit part in Death Proof...

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Loilita, Berrybuzz and I went last night to see Grindhouse...it was so COOL! The whole experience was so great-Tarantino and Rodriguez totally pegged the grindhouse thing; what was weird for me is that the little filler parts-the Feature Presentation spots with the pseudo-porn music, for instance-I remember those from when I was a kid...and some of the pop culture references were so well placed. I laughed, I groaned, I sat there and adored Kurt Russell even though Stuntman Mike is a VERY BAD MAN. One of the best movies I have seen in a long time! And we were a little amazed that there wasn't more gore-there was alot but it wasn't as prevalent like I thought it would be.
The trailers were GREAT, if a bit, ah, twisted. If you are easily offended, don't watch them. I laughed my *** off!

I liked this movie so much that Louis and I went and saw it this morning, because he hadn't seen it yet. I am going to get both soundtracks because the music in both is FABULOUS. QT has this great record collection and wow, does it show. Great choices of songs!

Ok, enough gushing. We had a blast!
 

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Doh! said:
I'm glad Kill Bill was in 2 parts: I thoroughly enjoyed the first one but was bored by the second. It almost seemed like different genres and made by different directors.

I liked both Kill Bill's very much, but am equally glad they were split into two parts from the original really long story plan.
I found both parts very entertaining.
 

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I just saw it, and overall it was pretty fun. The trailers had me laughing out loud. Planet Terror is easily the better of the two; Death Proof was waaaaaaay too talky; I keep thinking, "Shut up and drive!" It's funny, they kept metioning Vanishing Point and Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry and I saw both of those in the theater! (back then, they weren't too stringent about minors getting in to R rated stuff). The originals, alas, were much better.

A couple of other things bothered me about Death Proof: the sheriff suspected Stuntman Mike of murder, yet where was the scene at the end of the film where he shows up on the road and says, "We'll take it from here, ladies."? Or the girls returning the wrecked car to the owner and say something like, "We'll take it." or "Don't worry, these dents will hammer right out."?

Anyway, it's most worth seeing on the big screen.
 

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Somehow I enjoyed Death Proof. Most of the dialogue was funny and not necessary, which to me made it all the more fun to watch. It was like those films you see where the momentum just builds up after the villian kills one victim after another, and you begin to expect it to come again and again. You're just sitting there waiting for the killer to arrive. Planet Terror was much more upbeat. Gore, violence, and sex is at a medium. Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez don't go as far as they could have, but then again, that would have made it into an action porn. They did good.
 

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Ahh, I still have to say, as one of the biggest QT fans, that the "Death Proof" dialogue was pretty bad. WAAAAY too much talking, and most of it uninteresting and frustrating. There was a point when the girls were bickering (about doing their stunt on top of the car) that dragged on for so long that I wanted to scream at the screen! I guess the powers that be are afraid to edit QT's material.
There should have been more Kurt Russell!
And check out the screen credits on IMDB. There is a "foot double"!!
Gotta LOVE Tarantino!
 

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Finally got to see it this weekend and Tarantino & Rodriguez didn't disappoint. It was completely over the top including the fake movie trailers. I loved Rob Zombie's "Wearwolf Women of the SS".lol lol All of the tongue in cheek one-liners and references to their other movies. Anyway, we had a great time with Grindhouse, it was exactly what we were expecting of it. The one thing I enjoyed was the "Death by Radio" logo on the hood of the Death Proof car. And man, I want a duck hood ornament now, that was too funny.;)

Cheers!

Dan
 

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Quigley Brown said:
I had a bit part in Death Proof...

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Just so you know, this made me scream. It will be haunting my dreams for some time to come. You are a very bad man. [bad]

:D

-Viola
 

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One of my favorite references was the angry rubber duck hood ornament in Death Proof. It was from Convoy. The cool thing is that you can still buy this hood ornament. It's so bad it's cool.
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Uh, Breaker One-Nine, this here's the Rubber Duck
You got a copy on me Pig-Pen? C'mon


Cheers!

Dan
 

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I am currently watching Death Proof....yikes! Talk about boring.
What is with the pointless chatter? Is that hip? Give me a break. The cultural references are totally lost on the lightweight actresses spouting the lines.
I need to Death Proof my living room cuz I am going to do somthing drastic if this film does not pick up..
 

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...that's the thing about Tarantino. You either love what he does, or you hate it.

I'd personally like to see him do something WITHOUT 'tributes', pop culture references, or other silly piggybacking on cult hits that never had to try to be cool or hip. It seems he can't make something without rehashing pop culture.

I liked Pulp Fiction, I enjoyed Reservoir Dogs - to a point - and Jackie Brown was great. All well-written and well-produced. I took one look at Death Proof and thought, 'Hoo boy, here comes a ripoff and bastardization of all that was great about '60s and '70s car flicks.'
 

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Other than for sheer commerce, it's most baffling to me why they split Grindhouse into 2 DVDs -- and why they released Death Proof first.

I had a hoot seeing them as a double bill in the theater. I'm not so sure either part is really strong enough to stand alone.
 

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..finished Death Proof.
O.k, this is the worse movie I have ever seen. 117 minutes of pure pablum. It is not grind house fare but a self serving waste of time.

Tarantiono jumped the shark with Kill Bill "vol. I & II" (a joke) and has now cemented himself in the pantheon of bad directors. The directing talents of Ed Wood suddenly seem like Billy Wilder.
 

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Violence in any production, is like lipstick.
Appropriate and enhancing in the correct amount and totally riduculous if overdone.

Blowing up cars,non-sequiter car chases, shootings, burnings, stabbings, stranglings, to say nothing of chain saws, wood chippers, Kitchen Aid food processors, etc., etc. ad neausem, ad infinitum, ad Hoc and ad "other stuff" just plain (and fancy) pisses me off.

Substitute a good story (WOWSERS! What a concept?) well thought out that has a begining, a middle and an end, that can capture and maintain the attention of the audience.

Provide decent workmanlike actors, appropriate to the parts for which they have been selected, add a knowledgable and competent director and THAT is ALL that any offering needs.
Throw in sound economic production values and you have a good and entertaining show.

Violence for violence sake in any film or other production is for moronic teen age boys as a substitute for their own repressed (sometimes NOT so repressed) violence and poor undisciplined upbringings and dopey vacant headed little girls who want to practice their screaming.

Implied threat or violence is much more difficult to present, and much, MUCH more effective in any theatrical production.
More entertaining too.

If there is violence in a film, let it be where it is appropriate to the story. Not a bit more than necessary. Not a bit less.
Please.
 

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LizzieMaine said:
This film has caused quite a bit of grumbling among projectionists -- it's intentionally printed to look like it's been dragged thru the distribution chain for months, complete with dirt, grime, scratches, bad splices, sloppy cue marks, and even a "missing reel." Tarantino might think he's being all hip and ironic here, but those of us who work in booths are absolutely dreading the complaints from the audience, and hot-shot art punks trying to impress their dates by hollering rude know-it-all comments upstairs.

Ha, yeah I guess you are likely to get the brunt of folks who don't get it.... I know the kind of know it all you mean. I saw one of the premiere screenings of The Lost Skeleton of Cadavre in a multiplex on the Bowery, NYC back in Feb 04. Great fun film, just a pity about the pretentious idiot with the exaggerated, false laugh like a cross between a hyena and a donkey who felt the need to draw attention to how clever he was by making a show of "laughing" at every single reference in the film. :rolleyes:


Lady Day said:
You cant beat the first HALF of Dusk Til Dawn. The rest I Can do without.

That was my favourite thing about it, the juxtaposition of the two halves. I either didn't know or had forgotten going in to the cinema about the nature of the secodn half, so I got the full effect - first half, traditional Tarantino, second half a whole different beast that I enjoyed equally, and totally took me by surprise. Much more effective than Schyamalan's trade mark tedious 'twists!" :D

Doctor Strange said:
But am I the only one who thinks that the idea of a leg-prosthetic machine gun was essentially *stolen* from the hilarious Scotsman character (voiced by the great John DiMaggio, aka Bender) of the excellent "Samaurai Jack" cartoons of a few years ago? He had a machine gun for a leg - and he knew how to use it!

It may well be, but if so, the toon stole it too. There was a villain in an episode of The A Tream who had a shotgun concealed in a prosthetic leg. If memory serves, it was a fairly early episode, maybe around 1983, early 84? I'd have thought that was a morel ikely source for QT than the toon too.

Matt Deckard said:
I agree completely. I think This new grindhouse fair by Tarentino and company is like trying to make a farce of what was a wickedly up front type of movie. They aren't really emulating the pics seen in the days when theaters had b movies... they are turning b movie ideas into 'A' production value homages, and that just takes away the fun. It's like remaking Evil Dead -- again (ecsept this time with a different actor).

I don't know the latest, but an Evil Dead remake was on the cards as recently as about eighteen months ago. The studio, probably as a sop to the fanbase given the inevitable uproar about it, had attached Bruce Campbell's name to the project. Supposedly this was to be the precursor to the long awaited Evil Dead IV, which Raimi and Campbell both want to do, and Raimi insisted would happen as soon as he could fit it in (post Spiderman). A future-set ED IV would be great, picking up where the original cut (available on DVD as Director's cut) of Army of Darkness left off. If they needed a younger actor to play Ash for sequences Campbel is too old for now, I always thought the kid who played Xander in Buffy would be a great stand-in.

Fleur De Guerre said:
It's going to be released as two films over here apparently. I keep hearing Plet Terror is the best one, but I don't know as I'll see either!

I was gutted when I discovered this. I'll still see them both, and I'm sure i'll find them entertaining, but what I was really attracted to was the double-bill plus trailers concept. I really hope some arthouse cinema shows it as was originally intended. Apparently this was not a decision made by Tarantino so he could add to the length of Deathproof (we have a longer film on release here), but something the studio imposed as they believed the film would sell better to the UK and European market split into two. I'm annoyed that they've sold out the concept, but I guess studios are all about the bottom line, not art. [huh] I'm even more disappointed to hear they're gonig to be two separate DVDs.... I had hoped that I could at least view it almost as was intended by watching it as one on DVD. :(
 

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Based on viewing Death Proof I have removed Planet Terror from my Netflix queue. Unless I have it on supreme authority that PT is not as lame as DP I am not wasting my time.
 

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