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Herbert Johnson ‘Genuine Panama’ Optimo Crease
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Herbert Johnson ‘Genuine Panama’
4 7/8 Crown with Optimo Crease
1 1/2 black grosgrain ribbon
2 1/2 brim front 2 7/8 sides
Approx 14-16 WPI

This Herbert Johnson Panama arrived several weeks back. At 7 1/4 its probably a tad too big. But it’s just too beautiful not to get to wear at least a few times :) It has a nice optimo crease that measures to 4 7/8. And the dimensional brim is actually a bit wider on the sides than in front. It does have a small crack toward the rear of the brim behind the black grosgrain bow. I’ll prob take a shot at repair with either wood glue or book binding glue if I can find. I think I counted the weaves to be about 14-16 WPI The 13 Old Burlington Street address on the box and sweat indicates dating between 1975 to 1988.

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Because of the size and soft nature of the brim, it creates a bit of a curvature. I’m not sure how it wears best. Might be brim up is best.. but it didn’t photograph well that way on my head. Brim down the curve is a bit accentuated and maybe slightly feminine. I did find one spot where just the very front of the brim is turned down and looked good from the front. But not as sure on the sides.

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Nice find Joe, despite the tear. I don't quite understand the tag though. Is it a 59cm or 7 1/4? It can't be both, or has my brain frozen due to the cold weather?

Anyway, still a cool find :)

Herbert Johnson ‘Genuine Panama’ Optimo Crease
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Herbert Johnson ‘Genuine Panama’
4 7/8 Crown with Optimo Crease
1 1/2 black grosgrain ribbon
2 1/2 brim front 2 7/8 sides
Approx 14-16 WPI

This Herbert Johnson Panama arrived several weeks back. At 7 1/4 its probably a tad too big. But it’s just too beautiful not to get to wear at least a few times :) It has a nice optimo crease that measures to 4 7/8. And the dimensional brim is actually a bit wider on the sides than in front. It does have a small crack toward the rear of the brim behind the black grosgrain bow. I’ll prob take a shot at repair with either wood glue or book binding glue if I can find. I think I counted the weaves to be about 14-16 WPI The 13 Old Burlington Street address on the box and sweat indicates dating between 1975 to 1988.

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Because of the size and soft nature of the brim, it creates a bit of a curvature. I’m not sure how it wears best. Might be brim up is best.. but it didn’t photograph well that way on my head. Brim down the curve is a bit accentuated and maybe slightly feminine. I did find one spot where just the very front of the brim is turned down and looked good from the front. But not as sure on the sides.

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I picked this one up just before Christmas. Haven't posted it before now as Panos' and Stefan's buys took over the hat show :)

Nothing particularly special, but nice nonetheless.

A Belmonte, never seen this make before. Nice thick felt and smooth feel to it. Brim look works up or down. No need to deduce what year it's from.

All in all, a cool jazz concert hat :) IMG_20210209_211021.jpg IMG_20210209_210208.jpg IMG_20210209_210359.jpg IMG_20210209_210553.jpg IMG_20201224_200150.jpg IMG_20201224_200202.jpg
 

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It had been some time since these hats were sent to Fleur of Penumbra Hats in Nedherlands, Covid then extended the time even further, but it was absolutely worth it. Yesterday I received the first batch of finished hats. Today we see little-known heroes, the ones who probably would have been given lost in order to be able to wear them.
They are all French hats bought in one batch of unfinished or roughly finished hats.
Why did I wait and spend money? For the quality felts that are not very repeatable today, even if some have unusual shapes.
Karson 4.JPG

Karson in heather felt, burnt brown background color with green, yellow and red inserts.
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Ribbon that accompanies the color of the felt.
Karson 3.JPG

Measurements: the brims sewn above are 5 cm., the ribbon 4 cm. and the crown at its lowest point at 11.5 cm. Size 60cm, which is 7 1/2 US
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New sweatband and finishing.
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"Veritable feutre de poil" (Pure hare felt) no other indications with short-haired heather felt with a bright gray background color and lighter gray inserts.
FdP 2.JPG

Fantasy ribbon in gray with insert.
FdP 3.JPG

The measurements are as follows: the brims sewn above are 5.5 cm. the ribbon is 2.5 cm. and the lowest point of the crown is at 10.5cm, the size is 60cm. or 7 1/2 US
New sweatband and finishing
 

Daniele Tanto

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The batch of French had many hats that appeared to have been taken in bulk, whatever their state of manufacture. Most of them had labels, but others were semi-finished, some were useless. With patience and skill Fleur put him back on track following her taste and a "philology" of the hats of the Seventy, to which many of these belong.
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Rambouillet - B.Bouteille in brown felt with antelope finish and a soft malleability.
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The ribbon is new, it accompanies the color of the felt with insert in the bow.
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Measurements: the brims sewn above are 5 cm, the ribbon 3.5 cm. and the crown at its lowest point at 10.5 cm. Size 60cm, which is 7 1/2 US
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Flechet with short-haired heather felt with a bright gray background color and lighter gray inserts.
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Ribbon in gray that accompanies the felt.
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The measures are as follows: the brims sewn above are 5 cm. the ribbon is 3.5 cm. and the lowest point of the crown is at 11cm, the size is 59cm. or 7 3/8 US, but wide.
 

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Some truly wonderful hats, Daniele, beautifully resurrected and brought back to life thanks to you and especially Fleur.

The batch of French had many hats that appeared to have been taken in bulk, whatever their state of manufacture. Most of them had labels, but others were semi-finished, some were useless. With patience and skill Fleur put him back on track following her taste and a "philology" of the hats of the Seventy, to which many of these belong.
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Rambouillet - B.Bouteille in brown felt with antelope finish and a soft malleability.
View attachment 309085
The ribbon is new, it accompanies the color of the felt with insert in the bow.
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Measurements: the brims sewn above are 5 cm, the ribbon 3.5 cm. and the crown at its lowest point at 10.5 cm. Size 60cm, which is 7 1/2 US
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Flechet with short-haired heather felt with a bright gray background color and lighter gray inserts.
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Ribbon in gray that accompanies the felt.
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The measures are as follows: the brims sewn above are 5 cm. the ribbon is 3.5 cm. and the lowest point of the crown is at 11cm, the size is 59cm. or 7 3/8 US, but wide.
 

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Another hat picked up via Facebook Market Place. I love picking up these hats originally sold in hat shops in Danmark that have long gone.

Nothing particularly outstanding about this one. A Vancina manufactured before the Borsalino takeover, I believe.

A solid forrest hat. According to the lady I bought it from, it had hung for many years on the wall of a well known restaurant in Copenhagen, Waldes Jægerhytte (Walde's Hunter's Lodge).

Not sure how often I will wear it, but I'm glad I added it to the collection. IMG_20210211_204238.jpg IMG_20210211_204141.jpg IMG_20210205_190928.jpg IMG_20210205_190955.jpg
 
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It had been some time since these hats were sent to Fleur of Penumbra Hats in Nedherlands, Covid then extended the time even further, but it was absolutely worth it. Yesterday I received the first batch of finished hats. Today we see little-known heroes, the ones who probably would have been given lost in order to be able to wear them.
They are all French hats bought in one batch of unfinished or roughly finished hats.
Why did I wait and spend money? For the quality felts that are not very repeatable today, even if some have unusual shapes.
View attachment 309075
Karson in heather felt, burnt brown background color with green, yellow and red inserts.
View attachment 309076
Ribbon that accompanies the color of the felt.
View attachment 309077
Measurements: the brims sewn above are 5 cm., the ribbon 4 cm. and the crown at its lowest point at 11.5 cm. Size 60cm, which is 7 1/2 US
View attachment 309078
New sweatband and finishing.
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"Veritable feutre de poil" (Pure hare felt) no other indications with short-haired heather felt with a bright gray background color and lighter gray inserts.
View attachment 309082
Fantasy ribbon in gray with insert.
View attachment 309083
The measurements are as follows: the brims sewn above are 5.5 cm. the ribbon is 2.5 cm. and the lowest point of the crown is at 10.5cm, the size is 60cm. or 7 1/2 US
New sweatband and finishing
Some lovely heather felts that have been brought back to life, Daniele. I think I like the "veritable feutre de poil" best.
 
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I picked this one up just before Christmas. Haven't posted it before now as Panos' and Stefan's buys took over the hat show :)

Nothing particularly special, but nice nonetheless.

A Belmonte, never seen this make before. Nice thick felt and smooth feel to it. Brim look works up or down. No need to deduce what year it's from.

All in all, a cool jazz concert hat :) View attachment 308719 View attachment 308720 View attachment 308721 View attachment 308722 View attachment 308723 View attachment 308725
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