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Rmccamey

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Here's a new find. Shopping through vintage shops is usually the way I find hats, but with the restrictions only partially lifted you can find yourself standing in line for a long time waiting to get in. Not for me. Two shops were without line and I managed to find this hat in one of them.
Wegener Extra in green (in my defense: I thought it was grey when I bought it;)). Size 59 with the bound brim at 6,5cm and the crown at 10,5 cm at the center dent. Lovely thin felt with a nice hand to it. Quite light at only 102 grams. Except for the small size label no other label inside the hat. Liner is still stitched in, so likely early to mid-fifties.

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Mean Eyed Matt

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To confirm Stefan's opinion about the early Wegener hats: here's a top one!
Beige-grey ("leer PN" - City Leer?) Wegener "Seal": 56 with a 10 cm crown (centre dent)
and a 5.5 cm brim with double stitching. The suede-like felt finish is simply fantastic
(but Stefan and Steve know that felt better): The hat is the lightest fur felt specimen
I've ever had in my hands - unfortunately I don't have a scale here to weigh it.
The hat is in fantastic NOS condition - even the externe paper size tag is still there,
on which the price is handwritten: 19.40 D-Mark I think. The stretchy wind cord
is made of rubber (I think) and wrapped in ribbon colour - it is still flexible!
The lining is still sewn in - so early/mid 50s, you say.

The hat is a discovery of Panos and was on his wish list: Congratulations on this fantastic hat!

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To confirm Stefan's opinion about the early Wegener hats: here's a top one!
Beige-grey ("leer PN" - City Leer?) Wegener "Seal": 56 with a 10 cm crown (centre dent)
and a 5.5 cm brim with double stitching. The suede-like felt finish is simply fantastic
(but Stefan and Steve know that felt better): The hat is the lightest fur felt specimen
I've ever had in my hands - unfortunately I don't have a scale here to weigh it.
The hat is in fantastic NOS condition - even the externe paper size tag is still there,
on which the price is handwritten: 19.40 D-Mark I think. The stretchy wind cord
is made of rubber (I think) and wrapped in ribbon colour - it is still flexible!
The lining is still sewn in - so early/mid 50s, you say.

The hat is a discovery of Panos and was on his wish list: Congratulations on this fantastic hat!

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41208862de.jpg

41208861vs.jpg

41208853vl.jpg

41208860jc.jpg

41208851nk.jpg

41208849tq.jpg

41208855qs.jpg

41208857hd.jpg

41208856jt.jpg

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in sunlight
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Gorgeous hat and an excellent find. The felt on those is great. I have a similar one in brown.
 

Rmccamey

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That is a nice one, for sure.

To confirm Stefan's opinion about the early Wegener hats: here's a top one!
Beige-grey ("leer PN" - City Leer?) Wegener "Seal": 56 with a 10 cm crown (centre dent)
and a 5.5 cm brim with double stitching. The suede-like felt finish is simply fantastic
(but Stefan and Steve know that felt better): The hat is the lightest fur felt specimen
I've ever had in my hands - unfortunately I don't have a scale here to weigh it.
The hat is in fantastic NOS condition - even the externe paper size tag is still there,
on which the price is handwritten: 19.40 D-Mark I think. The stretchy wind cord
is made of rubber (I think) and wrapped in ribbon colour - it is still flexible!
The lining is still sewn in - so early/mid 50s, you say.

The hat is a discovery of Panos and was on his wish list: Congratulations on this fantastic hat!

41208865xs.jpg

41208862de.jpg

41208861vs.jpg

41208853vl.jpg

41208860jc.jpg

41208851nk.jpg

41208849tq.jpg

41208855qs.jpg

41208857hd.jpg

41208856jt.jpg

41208859tg.jpg

41208854qv.jpg

41209976gs.jpg


in sunlight
41208847if.jpg

41208845rf.jpg
 

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Someone in one of the FB hat groups asked about Penman Hats' quality the other day, and I commented that they weren't pounced very well.
I just took a look at mine, and I confirm that assessment. I also just noticed that the brim edge is trimmed irregularly at the back.
"Handcrafted" in hatmaking is not a good thing, IMHO. High quality machinery produces high-quality hats.
 
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I just took a look at mine, and I confirm that assesment. I also just noticed that the brim edge is trimmed irregularly at the back.
. "Handcrafted" in hatmaking is not a good thing, IMHO. High quality machinery produces high-quality hats.
Pity, the shape is good. Doesn't mean handcrafting can't be good; in the end most hats were handcrafted one way or the other.
 
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View attachment 335336 View attachment 335337 View attachment 335338 View attachment 335339 View attachment 335340 View attachment 335341 View attachment 335342 View attachment 335343 Someone in one of the FB hat groups asked about Penman Hats' quality the other day, and I commented that they weren't pounced very well.
I just took a look at mine, and I confirm that assessment. I also just noticed that the brim edge is trimmed irregularly at the back.
"Handcrafted" in hatmaking is not a good thing, IMHO. High quality machinery produces high-quality hats.


I’m not a big Penman fan, but that hat looks great in you, Max. I’ve heard John extol the virtues of a completely hand made hat and never bought it. Lots of hand work but the best tools for the job are important.

I remember Rick @humanshoes telling me that specialized tools were required for the best possible hat and no amount of hand work or time could make up for not having the right tools. Makes sense to me.
 

drmaxtejeda

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I’m not a big Penman fan, but that hat looks great in you, Max. I’ve heard John extol the virtues of a completely hand made hat and never bought it. Lots of hand work but the best tools for the job are important.

I remember Rick @humanshoes telling me that specialized tools were required for the best possible hat and no amount of hand work or time could make up for not having the right tools. Makes sense to me.
Very well put, Brent
 
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Just picked up this Stetson. It must've been someone's Sunday driver. It appears practically unworn, although a little worse for wear from being stuffed in a box half its size. Nothing a little steam and patience won't remedy. I'm guessing it's from sometime in the 1950s, but any help on the dating from someone more knowledgeable would be appreciated. The liner is glued in and there's not any kind of tags under the sweat, nor does it appear there ever were, except the stamp sized sticker with the $12.95 price on it. The felt may well be the thinnest I've handled from Stetson.
 

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Just picked up this Stetson. It must've been someone's Sunday driver. It appears practically unworn, although a little worse for wear from being stuffed in a box half its size. Nothing a little steam and patience won't remedy. I'm guessing it's from sometime in the 1950s, but any help on the dating from someone more knowledgeable would be appreciated. The liner is glued in and there's not any kind of tags under the sweat, nor does it appear there ever were, except the stamp sized sticker with the $12.95 price on it. The felt may well be the thinnest I've handled from Stetson.
I have 2 or 3 with that liner crest and keyhole tag that I also believe are ‘50’s hats. They are some of my favorites.
 

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