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[carouselvic]

That is a very nice hat, but that is no Panama. My best guess is that it's origins are from the western Pacific or eastern Indian Ocean area.

 

[alanfgag]

Alan, are you sure that hat wasn't meant for me (Dennis Brooks)?

So it is, Brooks, Dennis!

 

[rlk]

Panamabob/Optimo Semicalado

Body from Panamabob and finishing by Optimo in Chicago.

 

[carouselvic]

nice

 

[hasselhoff]

Body from Panamabob and finishing by Optimo in Chicago.

Sweet panama!!!

I love the blue ribbon!

 

[Neophyte]

That semi-calado is the bomb, RLK!

 

[monbla256]

Here's a noggin shot of my latest Akubra, a Black from David Morgan I got last week.

 

[Johnny J]

That is a very nice hat, but that is no Panama. My best guess is that it's origins are from the western Pacific or eastern Indian Ocean area.

Thanks carouselvic for that info. You can lightly see all the way thru the straw. Not a tight weave.

 

[delectans]

That is a very nice hat, but that is no Panama. My best guess is that it's origins are from the western Pacific or eastern Indian Ocean area.

To my eyes, from the photos it looks like un-bleached or patinated Brisa weave, but I would be curious to know what led you to the conclusion of Indo-Pacific origin for the straw?

 

[carouselvic]

To my eyes, from the photos it looks like un-bleached or patinated Brisa weave, but I would be curious to know what lead you to the conclusion of Indo-Pacific origin for the straw?

For me it is as much what I don't see. A brisa weave will have concentric circles on the top of the crown as well as on the brim.

I mentioned that region because of the buri palm. It's fiber is used to make Balibuntal and Baku hats. These hats have a gloss finish where a Panama is flat(dull). Here is a Balibuntal. (very old)

Though I'm not positive I think this is a very finely woven Baku. These are as light as a feather.

I see a lot of the same pattern in Johnny's hat. TLH

 

[delectans]

For me it is as much what I don't see. A brisa weave will have concentric circles on the top of the crown as well as on the brim.

Thank you for that illuminating and very helpful comparison. I THOUGHT you were probably referring to Baku, but most of the Baku hats I have seen have been of much coarser weave than the example you illustrated.

Here are the seller's original photos of Johnny's lid for additional reference.

 

[alanfgag]

I held a nice quality Baku weave at Gary White's over the winter. The weave and texture of this hat is very similar.

 

[hatophile]

Black John B. Open Road, looks to be in good shape, just received from E-Bay today.

 

[The Wiser Hatter]

You don't see many OR's in black. Looks like it will need a good brushing.

 

[rlk]

Stetson Royal DeLuxe Bantam Weight

I don't know what differentiates this from a Bantam other than DeLuxe lettering[huh]

 

[carouselvic]

nice

 

[alanfgag]

Great catch on that one Hatophile... nice to have an OR in the line-up for those non-beige days.

cheers,
Alan

 

[hatophile]

Thanks, Alan. Yes, Wiser Hatter, other than some dust, the hat is in great condition.

Nice looking Bantam, Robert. I like the light gray color.

 

[rlk]

P & C Habig Dealers' plates

example:

Prints from the dies of international dealers.

 

[zetwal]

Interesting objects, RLK.