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[The Shoe]

Johann Gärner, Gärner Hüte, "9535U", Back Bow, Under Welt, 57 cm possibly early 1960s. This Form was popular Germany and Austria in the late 1950s into the 1960s. I believe this hat was made by Johann Gärner Hüte Wien although they also sourced hats. Gärner Hüte Wien goes back to the late 19th Century. There were two brothers, Georg and Johann, associated with Gärner Hüte Wien and their small factory was located at Fröbelgasse 10, Wien. I come across Gärner Hüte Wien hats often but all in very small sizes. Here is an old Georg Gärner, Gärner Wien Wool Stiff Felt I found in 2013.

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Brim Up

Very nice. I’ve never seen a back bow quite like that one before.

 

[Rmccamey]

That is a very interesting hat. It looks very much a modern with it's pork pie vibe and double stitched brim. Fashion always comes back around, does it not!

Johann Gärner, Gärner Hüte, "9535U", Back Bow, Under Welt, 57 cm possibly early 1960s. This Form was popular Germany and Austria in the late 1950s into the 1960s. I believe this hat was made by Johann Gärner Hüte Wien although they also sourced hats. Gärner Hüte Wien goes back to the late 19th Century. There were two brothers, Georg and Johann, associated with Gärner Hüte Wien and their small factory was located at Fröbelgasse 10, Wien. I come across Gärner Hüte Wien hats often but all in very small sizes. Here is an old Georg Gärner, Gärner Wien Wool Stiff Felt I found in 2013.

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Brim Up

 

[mayserwegener]

Ooooh, nice! If only it were an adult size. But seriously, not formal but still nice!

Thank you!

 

[mayserwegener]

Very nice. I’ve never seen a back bow quite like that one before.

Gary, Thanks! It looks like a side Bow design moved to the back.

 

[mayserwegener]

That is a very interesting hat. It looks very much a modern with it's pork pie vibe and double stitched brim. Fashion always comes back around, does it not!

Randy, Thank you! I have a bunch of this type of Form from about same time period. I will have to post them all together!

 

[jeffgarf]

Gary, Thanks! It looks like a side Bow design moved to the back.

For those who know of Kevin Todd Gerber, he is working on designing one of his KTG hats with a back bow and has asked for input. I sent him this photo and I think this has been his favorite yet. Would be kind of a neat idea to see if someone could sell a modern hat with a back bow, no?

 

[Blare]

For those who know of Kevin Todd Gerber, he is working on designing one of his KTG hats with a back bow and has asked for input. I sent him this photo and I think this has been his favorite yet. Would be kind of a neat idea to see if someone could sell a modern hat with a back bow, no?

It is such a clean look. Gives the illusion of a complete loop with no seam. A beautiful hat Steve.

It has been enjoyable to watch Kevin, not only land on his feet post JJ’s but reinvent himself… create his own brand… and thrive. And establish one of the more popular FB hat groups in the process.

 

[mayserwegener]

For those who know of Kevin Todd Gerber, he is working on designing one of his KTG hats with a back bow and has asked for input. I sent him this photo and I think this has been his favorite yet. Would be kind of a neat idea to see if someone could sell a modern hat with a back bow, no?

Jeff, Thank you! That is fantastic that KTG Hats is a designing a Back Bow model. The Back Bow was popular in Germany and Austria going back to the early 1900s. Here is an early one.

"Gloria" Backbow, Wool Soft Felt, No Company Mark, possibly late 1920s. This Soft Felt came with a crease clip.

This is a more accurate color.

 

[jeffgarf]

Look at what showed up in my office today!

 

[jeffgarf]

Also, apparently someone dropped £746 on this hat, said, "nah, don't like it" and I picked it up for a song. Definitely would not have paid anywhere near full price for it, but I can't complain.

 

[ShadowXY]

Akubra Range Sz 55. Perfect fit as I think the crown is a bit deeper 4 1/4 in front 4 1/2 in side.

The Shark & Snowy River come in at 4 inch front. Just not sitting deep enough on my head.

 

[ShadowXY]

For those who know of Kevin Todd Gerber, he is working on designing one of his KTG hats with a back bow and has asked for input. I sent him this photo and I think this has been his favorite yet. Would be kind of a neat idea to see if someone could sell a modern hat with a back bow, no?

Don't know him but watched his U tubes. His last one showed he knows more than I thought about fitting hats. He had some great advice. I picture him somewhere in LIC Long Island City, Queens with those guitars of his.
Cool he's making his way up into the Haberdashery of the world.

 

[jeffgarf]

LIC Lon Island City with those guitars of his.

Queens, I believe.

 

[ShadowXY]

Jeff, Thank you! That is fantastic that KTG Hats is a designing a Back Bow model. The Back Bow was popular in Germany and Austria going back to the early 1900s. Here is an early one.

"Gloria" Backbow, Wool Soft Felt, No Company Mark, possibly late 1920s. This Soft Felt came with a crease clip.

This is a more accurate color.

Please forgive me. Sorry, buck not fond of that crease...

 

[The Shoe]

Akubra Range Sz 55. Perfect fit as I think the crown is a bit deeper 4 1/4 in front 4 1/2 in side.

The Shark & Snowy River come in at 4 inch front. Just not sitting deep enough on my head.

Looks good! Not too stiff for you?

 

[bmw1976]

Another one I jumped on right away. No bargaining and no asking about the size, from a French seller who never wore it, it seems.
The Sovereign Stetson Twenty Texan in silverbelly. Turned out to be a size 57 with the the raw edge brim at 7cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Nice single ply ribbon. Weighs 151 grams. Great hand to the slightly more stiff felt (as expected for a more western leaning style). Apparently the block number 123 was the ******* block (according to this link: https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/stetson-block-profile-numbers.62324/post-1867726), but this is anything but a ******* (well, a Texan ******* perhaps?). Not a Stetson label but a generic one.

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Wow, that is a gorgeous hat! Congrats on the find. I need one.

 

[steur]

Finally took some pictures of this one.
Brummel's Luxor Qualité de Luxe fedora in black. Size 56 with the overwelt brim at 6cm and the crown at 9,5cm at the center dent. Chamois finish to the felt which has a lovely hand. The fairly low crown gives it a sleek look.

 

[mayserwegener]

Dobesch Wien "Standard", with "Dobesch Conformatic", 57 cm, possibly 1960s. This is a very well made later Homburg Hat. The Light Gray Felt has a fine hand and is pliable. The Black Sweatband has a special finish and is of high quality. This Homburg Hat was custom made for the well known Josef Pichler & Söhne Graz.

Open Crown

 

[Steve1857]

Dobesch Wien "Standard", with "Dobesch Conformatic", 57 cm, possibly 1960s. This is a very well made later Homburg Hat. The Light Gray Felt has a fine hand and is pliable. The Black Sweatband has a special finish and is of high quality. This Homburg Hat was custom made for the well known Josef Pichler & Söhne Graz.

Open Crown

That's a nice find, Steve.

Other than the hat itself and the ribbon and bow treatment, I particularly like the liner font and graphic.

 

[Pellie]

Borsalino Nutria, no label in it, so don't know the age. It's dirty underneath the brim, so i have to clean that. Size 5 1/2 = 58, but according to the seller it was a 59, i always wondering what's with the sizes?? Not my best Borsalino, but the felt is soft and it's very lightweighted.