Stetson block profile numbers

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Joshbru3, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. splintercellsz

    splintercellsz I'll Lock Up

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    It is a replacement, and from what I was told, it could be from the 20's-70's. It feels like older horse hair, so it could be towards the earlier frame.

    I absoloutely love that derby!!!!

    Carousel, beautiful hat!!
     
  2. splintercellsz

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    1900s Stetson Expo

    Block: 587 1/2(?)
    Height: 5 5/8

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  3. Joshbru3

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    Thanks so much for the additions, everyone!!!
     
  4. Joshbru3

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    UPDATED LIST (Effective 07-18-2013, 2:32pm Central time)

    (Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
    (Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
    (Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
    (Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
     
  5. alanfgag

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    One more for the list:

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  6. Joshbru3

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    Thanks, Alan! Is that height 5 5/8 or 5 3/8. Its interesting because there is already a 729 5 5/8 on the list, but I wonder what the difference in the 729 1/2 block was.
     
  7. alanfgag

    alanfgag

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    5 5/8, I'm quite sure. No idea why we have half blocks... ?? nor why we have this odd white manufacturing label. I guess as with the universe, we only know the tip of the iceberg!
     
  8. Mystic

    Mystic Practically Family

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    I picked up my first derby a couple of months back. A black Stetson 'Featherweight' with vent holes and tip sticker, taped sweat.

    Looks like the block number is one I didn't see on the list. 292 block, 5 depth written in blue ink on the label.

    If I can find my camera I'll try to get some photos on the the thread.
     
  9. splintercellsz

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    Not Mine

    Looks like block 450

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  10. Joshbru3

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    WOW!! I have never seen a Stetson reorder tag that old!!! I would have to imagine it would be from the 1870's - 1890's.
     
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  11. Joshbru3

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    Thanks very much, Mystic!
     
  12. Joshbru3

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    UPDATED LIST (Effective 07-24-2013, 9:17pm Central time)

    (Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
    (Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
    (Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
    (Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
     
  13. Joshbru3

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    Its very interesting because I've seen these exact white reorder tags on several old Stetson longhairs. Did Stetson ever import their long hair bodies from Austria? There has to be a reason that many of the old long hairs have this specific tag verses the standard red Stetson reorder tag.
     
  14. Mystic

    Mystic Practically Family

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    Ok, lets see if I remember how to get a photo on here.....

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    Got a couple more photos for another thread perhaps. Any clue as to the date?
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2013
  15. alanfgag

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    Intriguing guess!... though they certainly had a busy furry Nutria business going on in their western hat line. I have a few and all have the regular red labels. Hmmm.
     
  16. alanfgag

    alanfgag

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    Nice featherweight derby, Mystic. I have a premier quality Stetson featherweight - lightest derby in my collection. With round sticker, I would guess 1920s - 1930.
     
  17. splintercellsz

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    1920s/1930s Stetson Nutria

    Looks to be Block # 501

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  18. Purplesage

    Purplesage One Too Many

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    Stetson Unknown Model

    Can anyone here help me ID when this Stetson was made. It has a 2" brim with underwent, 5 1/2" open crown, 2" grosgrain ribbon, Celanese yarn liner and unreeded leather sweatband. I assume the block number is 102. There is also the number 519 which is handwritten on a small tag along with the hat size 7 1/4. No idea what this number would mean. Is anyone familiar with block 102? The felt on the hat is very dense and the leather sweatband is made of high quality leather which is very soft. I think the hat is actually older then it looks.


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  19. splintercellsz

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    Late 40s-50s is my guess.
     
  20. Purplesage

    Purplesage One Too Many

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    Has anyone else had a Stetson with Block 102? I was thinking the hat could possibly be from the 30s with the small brim. I don't know if Stetson was making smaller brim hats in the late 40s, plus the unreeded sweatband! I've lookedat old Stetson ads and can't find a hat that looks like this.
     

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