Stetson block profile numbers

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Joshbru3, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    UPDATED LIST (Effective 02-27-2014, 2:56pm Central time)

    (Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
    (Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
    (Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
    (Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
     
  2. splintercellsz

    splintercellsz I'll Lock Up

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    1920s Nutria

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    1900s Expo

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  3. splintercellsz

    splintercellsz I'll Lock Up

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    1920s Boss Raw Edge

    Block 50

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  4. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    UPDATED LIST (Effective 10-10-2014, 12:15pm Central time)

    (Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
    (Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
    (Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
    (Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
     
  5. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    UPDATED LIST (Effective 10-28-2014, 1:35pm Central time)

    (Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
    (Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
    (Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
    (Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
     
  6. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    1915 Stetson THE EVENT


    The tag appears to say Block 309 with a height of 6


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  7. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    UPDATED LIST (Effective 11-19-2014, 12:43am Central time)

    (Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
    (Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 309, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
    (Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
    (Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
     
  8. hatsRme

    hatsRme I'll Lock Up

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    You are amazing, Josh. Thank you for keeping on top of these, and for your posts!!
     
  9. 1mach1

    1mach1

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    +1
     
  10. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    You are most definitely welcome. :)

    The lounge is a wealth of information and any adding to that information is my pleasure.
     
  11. Mystic

    Mystic Practically Family

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    Josh, you certainly have stayed on top of this thread.

    Have you been able to come to any conclusions from this info, other than determining and preserving the many different blocks that have been used?

    With your knowledge of "all things Stetson" does this give you some insight that would not be obvious to the average hat wearer?

    I think at one point you were hoping to match Block #s with photos to show the shape produced by each Block.
    That would be quite a big undertaking seeing so many different #s.
     
  12. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    Well, this info has taught me a couple of things......

    Stetson used many different block numbers and profiles for their hats through the years and new ones keep popping up every day. One of my hopes is that one day a block will show up in an antique store or ebay with one of these block numbers on them. I know at one point Stetson was giving old blocks to their employees in the 20's to use as firewood, so that tells me that old blocks were permitted to leave the factory. Its my hope that not all of them have been burned through the years.

    I have learned that some hats that we all know and love from Stetson used a particular block during their run. For example, the Stetson Playboy used a 123 block. That was "THE" playboy block, though through the years the crown height had changed. It appeared that the profile stayed the same on top. I have also learned that other blocks were made in varying crown heights, but similar profiles.

    Its good info to collect because if there was ever a question as to the model name or type of Stetson hat that someone had, the block number could give a good insight into identifying that particular hat. Its just another tool in our toolbox for dating or identifying old Stetsons.
     
  13. Mystic

    Mystic Practically Family

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    Good Job, Detective. You have earned your Gold Shield for sure.
     
  14. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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  15. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

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    Location:
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    UPDATED LIST (Effective 01-19-2016, 3:44pm Central time)

    (Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
    (Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 309, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
    (Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
    (Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
    (Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
    (Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
    (Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
    (Block Used: 644, Labeled Height: 6 1/4)
    (Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
    (Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
    (Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
    (Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
     
  16. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Josh, here are some I have from my billhead research.

    B

    Block Model Dimensions Source

    26 South 2 1/2 brim 1900 billhead

    220 Pocket (5 X 2 1/2) 1892 billhead

    328 Graeco (4 3/4 X 2 5/8) 1892/1900/1905 billhead

    328 Xlnt 1892 billhead

    352 model unknown 2 1/2 brim 1900 billhead

    423 West 1892 billhead

    447 Pocket Jr 1892 billhead

    464 Voyage Soft 2 3/4 brim 1892 billhead

    639 Caprice 1892 billhead

    644 Montana 3 1/2 brim 1890/1892/1900 billhead

    656 Basis 2 3/4 brim 1919 billhead

    684 Austral 3 brim 1916 billhead

    685 model/dimensions unknown 1890 billhead

    699 Virginia dimensions unknown 1892 billhead

    729 Mercury 2 5/8 brim 1919 billhead

    821 R.R. 2 1/2 brim 1892/1900 billhead
     
  17. carouselvic

    carouselvic I'll Lock Up

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    block 752 depth 5 5/8"
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  18. Roadopen

    Roadopen One of the Regulars

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    Location:
    Hollywood North b/w 7 - 7 1/8
    .............anybody in the know of this Block number?

    Royal De Luxe Stetson : Block F 702
    : Size 7 1/8


    Thanks,
    Roadopen
     

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