Stetson "The Sovereign Twenty"

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  1. Torpedo

    Torpedo One Too Many

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    Hello,

    I posted this one on the "What hat are you wearing today" thread, where it elicited various comments.

    It is a Stetson "The Sovereign Twenty".

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    According to info culled from the "Stetson Think Tank" thread, this would be a model "Ambassador" from the 50's, when this double quality denomination (both "Sovereign" and "Twenty") was sometimes encountered. "Stetson Twenty" may be read on the sweatband and on the liner, "The Sovereign" just on the sweatband.

    It would seem this is hat identical to the one TonyB posted in that thread, BTW, although mine does not conserve the original label with the model designation.

    The bash is not that frequent - a center dent with side creases, and tightly pinched on top of it. It looks rather "Open-Roadish". The hat came in this guise, and I left it that way.

    Regards!
     
  2. scotrace

    scotrace Head Bartender Staff Member

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    That crease says 1920's in spades. Without seeing the inside, I would have put it there. That shape is seen all over the place in films and pictures up through the early 30's. FDR's "campaigning hat" held that crease right up through the 40's.
    On a hat with a softer, finer felt, like this one, the very same dents take on a whole different character than the standard issue cattleman's crease seen in Open Roads today. Thanks for sharing this one.
     
  3. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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    Mid '50s, I'd say.
    I like the crease.
     
  4. HarpPlayerGene

    HarpPlayerGene I'll Lock Up

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    Amen, about the side dents being much more interesting and organic than blocked in or factory formed ones.

    I really like this hat, Torp' and I'm sure you do as well. Must feel great by the looks of it, and for all my Stetsons I never acquired one with the "Mode Edge".

    Niiiiiice.
     
  5. thunderw21

    thunderw21 I'll Lock Up

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    Very cool, both the hat and the bash.
     
  6. GWD

    GWD One Too Many

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    Beauty! I like that center crease. I have one very similar.

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    I'm not sure as to the age of this one. It's a Stetson but it looks as if the store installed its own liner, it's not stitched it's taped in.
     
  7. DrMacabre

    DrMacabre Familiar Face

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    i'm wearing the same hat daily, when i purchased it new in 2003, it was labeled from the 1950's.

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  8. KingAndrew

    KingAndrew A-List Customer

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    Nice picture, Doc!

    And welcome to the Lounge.
     
  9. g.durand

    g.durand One Too Many

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    Superbe, DrMacabre.
     
  10. tommyK

    tommyK One Too Many

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    I've got two of these;
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    Some of my favorite hats
     
  11. mayserwegener

    mayserwegener

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    Nicely photographed too. Can really see the felt color and finish.
     
  12. Daniele Tanto

    Daniele Tanto Call Me a Cab

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    Really wonderful hats. When tired of them let me know we could make an exchange!
     
  13. tommyK

    tommyK One Too Many

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    The Mode Edge Twenty has Sovereign on the liner as well
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  14. Strapped-4-Cache

    Strapped-4-Cache One Too Many

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    Posting these at Tommy's request. Not the best lighting, but using what's available.

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  15. tommyK

    tommyK One Too Many

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    Always great to add to the catalog of variations, S4C.
     
  16. Strapped-4-Cache

    Strapped-4-Cache One Too Many

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    Ran across this one in a thrift store today, but the $50 tag and being two sizes too big turned me away. The sweat was labeled "Sovereign", but the tag under the sweat indicated Whippet.

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  17. Bob Roberts

    Bob Roberts I'll Lock Up

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    Recent production Sovereign quality "Whippet." Abt $160+ new. I have one. Nice hat.
     
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  18. tommyK

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    I didn't realize the newer Whippets were the "Sovereign" quality. I bought one of these a few years ago but missed that it was Sovereign, maybe this is a one off or more recent? Got to dig that out again and check mine!
     
  19. Bob Roberts

    Bob Roberts I'll Lock Up

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    I did the chk thing too b4 I posted. Got mine new abt a year ago. "Sovereign."
     
  20. clintfisher

    clintfisher One of the Regulars

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    I'm really pleased to add a Stetson Sovereign Twenty to my collection. This rivals my Dobbs 20 in felt quality. Wasn't able to get a shot of the reorder tag as it was firmly under the liner.

    Brim: 2 3/4"
    Crown: 5"
     
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