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Swiss Hat Companies

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Maryland
I picked up this 70s Botta stingy long hair fedora in Zürich. Dreispitz found that Botta was out of Salorino (near Como, Italy), Switzerland (1902-1998). This hat is very similar to what Barbisio, Borsalino and Panizza were putting out at that time. It would be interesting to see some of their older hats.

(By the way I ran across a bunch of very small size vintage (some 1930s or older ones) hats from Swiss companies. I should have taken pictures for documentation purposes. Hopefully some more Swiss made hats will show up here. I am now on the look out.

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moehawk

I'll Lock Up
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5,727
Location
Northern California
My first Swiss hat. A Botta Velour that I found today at a thrift store. Not like I NEED another green fuzzy hat, but man, I just dig them! And, this one is unusual enough to add to the collection.

As found

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The tags and stamps

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Tip patch

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And a head shot, pins removed

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Brim is 1 3/4", crown 5".125g. Age guess is late 60's to 70's, but not much to go on other than instinct. The felt quality is high, on par with my P. & C. Habig Wien Velour of similar vintage. The Botta has a slightly shorter shorn nap, but other than that I can't tell the difference between the two just by feel.
A new lid, and a new nation represented on my hat rack! :)
 
Messages
19,005
Location
Central California
My first Swiss hat. A Botta Velour that I found today at a thrift store. Not like I NEED another green fuzzy hat, but man, I just dig them! And, this one is unusual enough to add to the collection.

As found

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The tags and stamps

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Tip patch

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And a head shot, pins removed

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Brim is 1 3/4", crown 5".125g. Age guess is late 60's to 70's, but not much to go on other than instinct. The felt quality is high, on par with my P. & C. Habig Wien Velour of similar vintage. The Botta has a slightly shorter shorn nap, but other than that I can't tell the difference between the two just by feel.
A new lid, and a new nation represented on my hat rack! :)

Looks great, John. Good to see you posting again.


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12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
My first Swiss hat. A Botta Velour that I found today at a thrift store. Not like I NEED another green fuzzy hat, but man, I just dig them! And, this one is unusual enough to add to the collection.

As found

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2a80852e2c254088322bd7b2f9bd4757.jpg
2684530fee04fb858e02259833804a13.jpg
67503f66f89120769008382c064e9616.jpg


The tags and stamps

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236f48763b5dc2a606be9f61d5982077.jpg
baf0d957c3f5fd7a2d3ce5dab5950876.jpg
4ee22db08567d93519471281886a07c1.jpg
53190681bcd616c3a755f3c0dc3d52f7.jpg


Tip patch

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And a head shot, pins removed

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Brim is 1 3/4", crown 5".125g. Age guess is late 60's to 70's, but not much to go on other than instinct. The felt quality is high, on par with my P. & C. Habig Wien Velour of similar vintage. The Botta has a slightly shorter shorn nap, but other than that I can't tell the difference between the two just by feel.
A new lid, and a new nation represented on my hat rack! :)
Super classic (for the mountains) look John. Wow! it is good to see you. I was just thinking of you the other day, I might have a stingy for you!
 
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18,029
Location
Nederland
I picked up this 70s Botta stingy long hair fedora in Zürich. Dreispitz found that Botta was out of Salorino (near Como, Italy), Switzerland (1902-1998). This hat is very similar to what Barbisio, Borsalino and Panizza were putting out at that time. It would be interesting to see some of their older hats.

(By the way I ran across a bunch of very small size vintage (some 1930s or older ones) hats from Swiss companies. I should have taken pictures for documentation purposes. Hopefully some more Swiss made hats will show up here. I am now on the look out.

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I'll admit I thought that Botta was an Italian brand. I have run into the occasional hat by them (none in the collection though). Seem well made hats, like this one. Cool.
 
Messages
18,029
Location
Nederland
My first Swiss hat. A Botta Velour that I found today at a thrift store. Not like I NEED another green fuzzy hat, but man, I just dig them! And, this one is unusual enough to add to the collection.

As found

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2a80852e2c254088322bd7b2f9bd4757.jpg
2684530fee04fb858e02259833804a13.jpg
67503f66f89120769008382c064e9616.jpg


The tags and stamps

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236f48763b5dc2a606be9f61d5982077.jpg
baf0d957c3f5fd7a2d3ce5dab5950876.jpg
4ee22db08567d93519471281886a07c1.jpg
53190681bcd616c3a755f3c0dc3d52f7.jpg


Tip patch

b02427419b3f1eb3c4b0eb0287e13651.jpg


And a head shot, pins removed

78c86ed113c17d24c38dbf1f315c0230.jpg


Brim is 1 3/4", crown 5".125g. Age guess is late 60's to 70's, but not much to go on other than instinct. The felt quality is high, on par with my P. & C. Habig Wien Velour of similar vintage. The Botta has a slightly shorter shorn nap, but other than that I can't tell the difference between the two just by feel.
A new lid, and a new nation represented on my hat rack! :)
Great to see you again, John. Hope you're doing well. The season for velours hats, stingy, green or otherwise is upon once again. Jay!
 

moehawk

I'll Lock Up
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5,727
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Northern California
Looks great, John. Good to see you posting again.


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Thanks Brent!
Very cool, Moe. The velour looks nice. I've never heard of Botta.


Sent directly from my mind to yours.
Thanks! I had not heard of them either, and being from a country not represented in my collection, I had to make room for it.
Super classic (for the mountains) look John. Wow! it is good to see you. I was just thinking of you the other day, I might have a stingy for you!
Thanks Mike! Good to be back.
Great to see you again, John. Hope you're doing well. The season for velours hats, stingy, green or otherwise is upon once again. Jay!
Thanks Stefan! It has been a summer suited for velours and felts in general here, with lots of coastal fog. Barely got to wear straw.
 

Tukwila

My Mail is Forwarded Here
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3,382
Location
SW of Antifa Central (PDX)
My first Swiss hat. A Botta Velour that I found today at a thrift store. Not like I NEED another green fuzzy hat, but man, I just dig them! And, this one is unusual enough to add to the collection.

As found

e974b5ca6eca48dd300196214b6cebca.jpg
2a80852e2c254088322bd7b2f9bd4757.jpg
2684530fee04fb858e02259833804a13.jpg
67503f66f89120769008382c064e9616.jpg


The tags and stamps

e4457e4aa202287b7c5b079312608c9f.jpg
236f48763b5dc2a606be9f61d5982077.jpg
baf0d957c3f5fd7a2d3ce5dab5950876.jpg
4ee22db08567d93519471281886a07c1.jpg
53190681bcd616c3a755f3c0dc3d52f7.jpg


Tip patch

b02427419b3f1eb3c4b0eb0287e13651.jpg


And a head shot, pins removed

78c86ed113c17d24c38dbf1f315c0230.jpg


Brim is 1 3/4", crown 5".125g. Age guess is late 60's to 70's, but not much to go on other than instinct. The felt quality is high, on par with my P. & C. Habig Wien Velour of similar vintage. The Botta has a slightly shorter shorn nap, but other than that I can't tell the difference between the two just by feel.
A new lid, and a new nation represented on my hat rack! :)
Very nice, Moe. Those "gamsbart" brushes can sell for over $100. The pins and brushes could be worth more than the hat itself... but that velour looks sweet!
 

moehawk

I'll Lock Up
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5,727
Location
Northern California
Found on eBay. I was waffling for a few days over whether I needed another black bowler when it went on sale at 30 percent off, so I just had to. Plus, Swiss hats don't pop up all that often.
National Extra quality by Hochstrasser Waedenswil.
Pardon the lint.

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In the sun

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The stamps and tags

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The sweat looks reeded, but is an odd type that has no fabric tape behind the sweat, just the edge. Only other one I've seen is on my French Maximes mystery hat.

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The liner is a beauty. Reminds me of a tuxedo shirt. :)

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And a head shot. Fits nice!

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It has a 5" crown and a 2" brim. 156g. The felt is in great shape, only one little dimple ro steam out. Feels like there may be wool in the blend as it has a somewhat coarse hand compared to some of my other bowlers. The sweat is a little dry, made me a bit nervous to turn it down for the pic. It survived unscathed (I hope) and should respond well to a Lexol-ing. Otherwise it has very little wear.
My thought on it's age is 30's. As always, all input to confirm or refute that assertion is welcome.


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Moviehats

One of the Regulars
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205
Location
Fort Worth, Texas
My first Swiss hat. A Botta Velour that I found today at a thrift store. Not like I NEED another green fuzzy hat, but man, I just dig them! And, this one is unusual enough to add to the collection.

As found

e974b5ca6eca48dd300196214b6cebca.jpg
2a80852e2c254088322bd7b2f9bd4757.jpg
2684530fee04fb858e02259833804a13.jpg
67503f66f89120769008382c064e9616.jpg


The tags and stamps

e4457e4aa202287b7c5b079312608c9f.jpg
236f48763b5dc2a606be9f61d5982077.jpg
baf0d957c3f5fd7a2d3ce5dab5950876.jpg
4ee22db08567d93519471281886a07c1.jpg
53190681bcd616c3a755f3c0dc3d52f7.jpg


Tip patch

b02427419b3f1eb3c4b0eb0287e13651.jpg


And a head shot, pins removed

78c86ed113c17d24c38dbf1f315c0230.jpg


Brim is 1 3/4", crown 5".125g. Age guess is late 60's to 70's, but not much to go on other than instinct. The felt quality is high, on par with my P. & C. Habig Wien Velour of similar vintage. The Botta has a slightly shorter shorn nap, but other than that I can't tell the difference between the two just by feel.
A new lid, and a new nation represented on my hat rack! :)
I saw so many of these hats at the Matterhorn. Not my style, but very nice. thumbnail.jpg
 

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