The Fedora Lounge Guide to Palm Beach Cloth

Discussion in 'Suits' started by Dinerman, May 11, 2013.

  1. Fletch

    Fletch I'll Lock Up

    And can no substitute be made for mohair? Where's our sense of can-do?
     
  2. Feraud

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    I keep telling my wife but she doesn't believe me. :eusa_doh:

    It is likely expensive but I doubt impossible! :D

    Logic dictates the cost of using mohair will decrease because it's not the entire content. Seeing as how a run of material if at all doable will only be a few hundred yards at most I see the cost per yard increasing.. so much for logic. [huh]

    If we eliminate mohair does that remove the "Palm Beach" factor?
     
  3. Fletch

    Fletch I'll Lock Up

    Only if we want to reach Far East levels of authenticity, which is probably impossible anyway.
     
  4. The Wiser Hatter

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    Mohair is just a wool yarn made from the hair of the Angora goat.
    Cotton, Mohair, Rayon all common materials.

    Custom weaving manufactor Keystone Weaving
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2013
  5. Feraud

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    I think we should be able to manage that level of obsession to detail!
     
  6. Definitely. Goat wool yarn is not at all a dead material. They still have goats so....:p
    I suppose we all agree that the color should be ivory. :D
     
  7. Two Types

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    Not that I know anything about weaving etc, but I would imagine there would lots more to reproducing a cloth to a satisfactory standard than just using the correct mix of fabrics. Would it not also require the right type of looms etc?
     
  8. You have a point and the fact is that the material changed a bit over time---and so did the content and texture. We would just have to experiment with a known example and go from there.
     
  9. Feraud

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    Yes..for the first run. ;)
     
  10. Then blue for the second? :p
     
  11. Feraud

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    Ha, that is exactly what I was thinking. :D

    And before you say it, a chalkstripe for the third!
     
  12. :p I am like The Shadow. I know. :p
     
  13. dakotanorth

    dakotanorth Practically Family

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    Hey everyone,
    I'd like to rekindle this discussion. Namely, in regards to cleaning and re-whitening Palm Beach fabric.
    Palm Beach is a blend of wool and linen, which means Oxi-Clean will digest it to some extent. However a lot of people swear Oxi-Clean will work just fine.
    However, Hydrogen Peroxide is considered the "bleach" for wools; ever heard of ladies "bleaching" their hair? H2O2!
    Has anyone tried soaking palm beach in H2O2? I would assume the typical 6% you buy at Wal-Mart won't work.
     
  14. herringbonekid

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  15. Rudie

    Rudie Call Me a Cab

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    Having the original formula rewoven shouldn't be that difficult, then. Cotton warp and mohair weft doesn't sound too complicated.
     
  16. Feraud

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    Just to mention in bleaching hair depending on how much hydrogen peroxide one uses it burns the hair and makes it brittle. One may not want to take that approach on a vintage garment.
     
  17. dhermann1

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    And maybe for copyright purposes we should call it Plam Beach cloth???
     
  18. Fastuni

    Fastuni Call Me a Cab

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    Rather Palm Bleach Cloth.

    :drum:
     

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