The Real McCoys '30s Cooper Jacket in "Black" Horsehide

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  1. Bennarion

    Bennarion One Too Many

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    The jacket fits you very well. Here is my bag, I think also a print, five days a week the skin rubs against my clothes. More than once there was a complete blotting of the leather.No changes IMG_20201204_153524.jpg IMG_20201204_153441.jpg IMG_20201204_153718.jpg
     
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    cellini New in Town

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  3. tmitchell59

    tmitchell59 My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Thank you for posting these links. A rather interesting breakdown on the Johnson jacket. Actually incredible detail of the original. Wow!

    They don't mention the patterning. The original in their possession is Goatskin with a pronounced grain, but is natural.
     
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  4. Rosecitymike

    Rosecitymike One of the Regulars

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    Not to derail, but Lee Miller of Texas Traditions has some of the original Russian reindeer hides. Was in the shop a couple years ago And got a tour. Really interesting leather. (And Lee is seriously one of the nicest dudes you’ll ever meet) I think I have another year plus on his waiting list but hope to get a pair of boots from him sometime, though I doubt it will be in the reindeer—would be sweet but can’t imagine the cost! I do have a pair of Zonkey Boot lace-ups in embossed leather that replicates this leather rather well and is a stunning pair of boots.
     
  5. Marc mndt

    Marc mndt Call Me a Cab

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  6. marker2037

    marker2037 A-List Customer

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    As has already been said, this is your best fitting jacket so far.

    This type of embossed leather is not scotch grain, but rather "Utah" as brands such as Edward Green call it or "Alpine" (Alden) or "Russian Calf".

    Here are some examples:

    https://gentlemensfootwear.com/products/edward-green-dover-in-dark-brown-utah

    https://www.fransboonestore.com/products/alden-alpine-grain-leather-dover

    What this all means really is that it's just a crosshatch grain, which ends up being very water resistant and is usually a grain chosen for "rainy day" footwear. All these iterations are highly prized in the goodyear welt shoe/boot world so I think you're in good company. Just look at the price of what Edward Green charges and they make some of the best shoes in the world, outside of true bespoke. I own a pair of Lof & Tung chukkas in Utah grain from Skoaktiebolaget.

    Sublime jacket either way and I would be happy if I was you.
     
  7. tmitchell59

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    This is a Block Bilt from San Francisco c.1940, so 80 years old. It does not have a leather tag. It is has a soft hand and in like new condition, but unlike anything I have experienced. It changes color too, looks grey in the light, but is Black.

    This must be the West Coast patterning? If this isn't it I don't know what is.
    The other jacket is late 30s Bay area in steerhide that is also most unusual.

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  8. marker2037

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    That looks like natural grain to me, not embossed grain.
     
  9. AeroFan_07

    AeroFan_07 My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    These two represent the words: Art in Leather -- to me. Thanks for sharing these Terry.
     
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  10. dudewuttheheck

    dudewuttheheck Call Me a Cab

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    Thanks for posting this and the other jackets. I love this style of jacket. I'm going to have to start hunting for originals now myself.

    Thanks! I think so too.

    Yeah that's what I was saying earlier. It looks more like Russian calf rather than scotch grain. I'd love to get some of that actual Russian Reindeer leather.

    Yeah with everything else I have, I don't mind having this weird leather in my collection. If it was my first jacket, then maybe not. That's not the case though.

    Yes I think it does fit me best. Hopefully the aging goes well with this jacket.

    Thanks for sharing this! A friend sent this jacket to me on instagram too. Measurements on this one don't work as well for me, but the jacket looks great.
     
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  11. Blackadder

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    I was referring to Mark's photo which shows scotch grain boots but as I said I doubt Dude's jacket is scotch grain.
    "Some leathers had embossed printing of other hide patterns which was frequently seen on leather jackets made in the west coast of America at the time. "
    https://therealmccoys.com/products/30s-sports-jacket-cooper
    To me it looks like they are going for some lizard skin pattern.
     
  12. Monitor

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    That's goatskin.
     
  13. JMax

    JMax I'll Lock Up

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    Beautiful fit dude.

    Could this be the look RMC is looking for? It’s a closeup of an early 40s Eagleson’s CHP (also had a Scully’s label). Out of SF, Cali.

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