Thanks! I'm surprised by the amount of movement I have in it, given the tightness. With everything I'd read about the comp weight leather, it's more supple than anticipated. It feels less stiff than a CXL Steerhide Schott I have. Looking forward to breaking it in fully.
I read a post on here from Carrie @ Thurston Bros about the comp weight leather and how it can change noticeably from batch to batch. I haven't handled another one for comparison, but I feel like I lucked out with this one. I'm curious what characteristics yours has that you find less desirable than older batches of comp weight you've handled?
Carrie said:The "new" Vanson Comp Weight people are talking about isn't all that new in the context of Vanson's leather history. Vanson's old tannery closed and they found a new tannery that could make their Comp Weight recipe (tanning, finishing, thickness, etc.). Some customers may not like the current version of this leather, but this is something we've experienced multiple times in the 13 years we've been selling Vanson jackets. Even with the same tannery, we saw variety in the grain, texture and finish of Comp Weight. The leather would change a little almost every year...some years we liked better than others, but the actual quality of the leather was always consistent with Vanson's specs. The "new" leather is different from the last batch that came out of the old tannery, but it is quite similar to some Comp Weight batches from from the old tannery about 7-8 years ago. In short, if you've had a number of Vanson jackets made in the last 30-40 years, the Comp Weight leather on each one will feel and look a little different!
Thanks! I have read through the first thread you linked and it was indeed helpful. The one from 2019 is new to me though. I'll check it out. Much appreciated.This is from Carrie at Thurston Bros, regarding the difference in comp weight hides:
Actually, the entire thread where I sourced that from may be a good read. This thread, a year later in 2019, was also helpful reading when I bought my CHP2 secondhand. In general, people have experienced both good and bad batches, but the good experiences seem to far outweigh the bad. Vanson has also had recent struggles with their tanneries that are outside of their control (one shut down due to a fire, another was unable to stay in business after lockdowns, I think), so that likely has increased the difference in hides, although their leather isn't expected to be identical anyway.
Also, fit looks really good!
The bainbridge and badalassi are not Vanson house leathers. I believe they are sourced by Thurston and then Vanson makes them. Vanson’s other leathers like x and z are sourced directly by them. I don’t know though if they source them all from different tanneries or the same one? The fire and then Covid closure may have affected one leather, all the leathers, that part I’m not sure about.Wonder why the Competition weight leather seems to be the only one affected by the change of tanneries. The X and Z the Badallasi and Bainbridge seem to remain the Same..
Chopper looks great ....
Oh man, I’d trade it in for a Chopper in CXL Steerhide in a heartbeat. Then again, I don’t think I’d be able to move in it after that.I am sure it´s obvious, but just to be on the safe side: I am by no means intending to badmouth Vanson or the Chopper (let alone the specific jacket in this thread). It´s a beast of a jacket, and I have put mine to much use and abuse. In terms of leather, I am talking strictly personal preferences. (Like: A Chopper in Horween CXL Steerhide...).