Looking for a "Bogie" hat on a budget..

Jake · Nov 18, 2004

Biltmore

I just received a steel gray Biltmore with a 4 1/2" diamond crown and a 2 1/8 inch snap brim. As I reshaped it for a tight pinch, I raised the crown to 5". Makes a good Bogart for about $120.00 The hat is done in their "president" grade of fur, I am very happy with it for the cost.

fedoraguy · Nov 19, 2004

I just received a hat from village hat shop that, though it is wool felt(I KNOW, I KNOW), more closely approximates the look of the Bogart fedora. I emailed the shop and asked if this hat could be made in fur felt, and Bruce from the shop advises that if I can get 6 total orders for the hat(all the same color), then he can have this hat made in fur felt for $95 per hat plus shipping. Take a look at the Jaxon c-crown fedora, and just imagine it in steel gray...............mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

K.D. Lightner · Nov 19, 2004

Kentucky -- I should have said, "it made the wearer feel special."

If you are not one to wear feathers, then you are special in that way.

I took a feather off the side of a western hat I bought because it was too, too big and the hat looked classy, but the feather hokey.

Being a gal, I sometimes place a flower in a hat, but not in my fur felts, no pins or holes. Sometimes I use a scarf if I want to look tres femme.

But I leave the little feathers in place now, knowing what they signified centuries ago.

karol

Duce Apocalypse · Nov 19, 2004

Originally posted by K.D. Lightner
Kentucky -- I should have said, "it made the wearer feel special."

If you are not one to wear feathers, then you are special in that way.

I took a feather off the side of a western hat I bought because it was too, too big and the hat looked classy, but the feather hokey.

Being a gal, I sometimes place a flower in a hat, but not in my fur felts, no pins or holes. Sometimes I use a scarf if I want to look tres femme.

But I leave the little feathers in place now, knowing what they signified centuries ago.

karol

Very Interesting Karol

Say what is good to water proof a fur felt hat?

duce out

BogieMcFly · Nov 19, 2004

I hear that Scotch Guard doesn't hurt the hat at all... you could just spray some of that on there.

In Christ,
Shane

gcollins · Nov 19, 2004

Hi BogieMcFly:

Love that avatar and your contributions to the forum! Welcome!

But if I may be so frank and with all due respect and tolerances to religious preferences, can you spare us all the In Christ stuff and the promotion of whatever religious preferences? There are three in your posts. This is about hats, and the Christian religious advertisements are offensive to me...and probably others.

Thanks in advance for your understanding.

Regards,
G

Duce Apocalypse · Nov 19, 2004

Originally posted by gcollins
Hi BogieMcFly:

Love that avatar and your contributions to the forum! Welcome!

But if I may be so frank and with all due respect and tolerances to religious preferences, can you spare us all the In Christ stuff and the promotion of whatever religious preferences? There are three in your posts. This is about hats, and the Christian religious advertisements are offensive to me...and probably others.

Thanks in advance for your understanding.

Regards,
G

It doesn't bother me that much and I'm not religious at all. They way he says it is almost like "god bless" which is a wish of good fortune.

He's not trying to preach to us, didn't say one thing about the cigarette hanging out of my mouth, or try to convert me or some crap, so as far as I'm concerned, if he wants to display his faith, that's his deal. I don't take it personally...

Duce out

Jake · Nov 19, 2004

Originally posted by BogieMcFly
I'm not sure I understand that part... but I do agree that to get the proper Bogart look, I'd have to take out the feather.

Also, I do see a lot of pictures of Bogart with a brown fedora (as in my avatar) - so why is it that we tend to use gray ones? Just for the black and white look?

In Christ,
Shane

Isn't the frame in your avatar a colored black and white scene? Bogies' hat could actually have been gray or brown in Casablanca.

K.D. Lightner · Nov 19, 2004

Is it true you can use Scotchguard on a fur felt fedora and not harm it? Mine are really soft and fine; I would probably be cautious and spray some on one spot first to make sure it did not ruin the silky smooth feel of the hat.

I thought fur felts were water-resistant to some degree. What are the experiences of folks caught out in the rain in these hats?
How about soft versus hard hats? Beaver versus hare?

Re: Bogie. In Casablanca, he wore a trenchcoat. Most of them were tan. One would think if he wore a tan coat, he would not wear a gray hat, but one in a brownish hue, or tan.

I agree with gcollins on the religious stuff. It not so much offends me as it strikes a political sore spot:I do fear that, in the future, if people do not wake up, we may actually be living in a theocracy.
Enough said.

karol

Brad Bowers · Nov 19, 2004

Just accept Shane for who he is. You don't have to believe what he believes, just his right to believe it. He has a constitutional right to his beliefs, so unless the moderators of this board say otherwise, just ignore whatever offends you. This country has gotten so damned politically correct that if the slightest thing offends someone, then they feel they have the right to stomp the offensive thing into oblivion just so they don't get offended anymore. Well hell, life sucks sometimes, and people may say something to piss you off, but so what? It's not going to kill you. Don't try to change someone just because you're offended by their beliefs.

Brad

Matt Deckard · Nov 19, 2004

He has his beliefs and likes to share them.
I wouldn't strike him down on the forum for wearing them on his sleeve. This is a hat forum and he is talking about hats and not Jesus... even though Jesus wasn't really into hats from what I have read, I see no problem with Shane's refferences to Christ.

In Christ is his Moniker and END OF LINE is mine.

I don't really care if you are offended by Tron.
I am not trying to push my love of the movie on you, I just want people to know what I like.

SHARPETOYS · Nov 19, 2004

Live and let live.

How important is it.

Think about it

MK · Nov 19, 2004

Jesus is far more important than hats.....or anything else for that matter. As long as I am running this joint Jesus is welcomed here.

I am an American. If someone had a problem with me being an American, I would not try to be less so to make others more....lets say comfortable. I wouldn't wish anyone to feel wierd for my nationality...but I wouldn't shy away from it either. I am proud to be an American....and far more so to be a Christian. My hope is that won't steal anyone's joy of hats.

I think it is an odd coincidence that I sent him a PM thanking him for his stance for Christ before seeing this thread.

K.D. Lightner · Nov 19, 2004

It is not so much a salutation, or a signing off, it is proselytizing that irks me. And some of that stuff was just that.

Someone can sign off, for all I care, In the name of Buddha, or Allah Akbar, or Blessed Be, or perhaps I ought to sign off in the name of Chomolungma.

Just don't throw stuff in my face.

karol

Matt Deckard · Nov 19, 2004

I do like the Keppler Bogie.

Kentucky Blues · Nov 19, 2004

I haven't really seen much of the Keppler Bogie...but I heard it was pretty nice...though I don't think it could compare to my $14 + shipping +optimo shaping cavanagh (thanks again, Nathan!

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K.D. Lightner · Nov 20, 2004

I haven't seen a Keppler Bogie but noticed that a number of hat shops, besides Village Hat Shops, have "Bogart" hats.

hats-plus.com and dadshats.com had Bogart hats, I noted that they were 2" rather than the 2 1/2" brims. Hatsinthebelfry had a nice looking Bogart hat, but it was in wool.

FYI, Village Hat Shop also has a fancier fur felt Bogart for those with fatter wallets. I saw it at Seaport Village on Sunday. It looked like the regular Bogart but had stitched brim edge and had a softer feel to it. It was a beauty. It was also $200.

karol

MK · Nov 20, 2004

This is the coolest one I have seen......

.....but it costs a few bucks more.

You can read more about it here.

http://fedoralounge.skyblueproducti...p?s=&threadid=304&highlight=so+many+questions

K.D. Lightner · Nov 20, 2004

MK -- What hat is that? Is does look like a classic Bogie.

kdl

gcollins · Nov 20, 2004

I know I caused this mixed thread to move to advertisements of religion, and people here want to talk about bogie hats. Sorry about that.

We cannot debate the religion thing here, nor take sides one way or another. I made a polite request, and it's Shane's choice.

I am confident that Shane--who we all respect for who he is of course--will consider complying with my request out of his selfless love, humility, and personal relationship with Jesus. It is obvious that he strives to walk the walk. We are all sinners, alas!

Thanks, again, Shane, for your understanding.

Regards,
G

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