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40s Sears Topline suede and 40s Windward Suede Horsehide

tmitchell59

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Two beauties from the 40s. The top line is probably a bit earlier. It has a sunrise Talon stop, with a plane V pull.

According to dinnerman the top-line series was limited to mid-forties. The V Talon zipper is WW2

The second jacket is a Windward from the late forties. Has a horse hide label.

I would guess the top line is a deerskin suede.
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These suede jackets look amazing, especially the Topline one with all those nice details on it! Thanks for the presentation! You wouldn't believe any suede jacket could look that nice after 70+ years, really makes me re-consider getting one. Chocolate suede matches well with jeans, makes for nice casual summer jackets imho!
 

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These suede jackets look amazing, especially the Topline one with all those nice details on it! Thanks for the presentation! You wouldn't believe any suede jacket could look that nice after 70+ years, really makes me re-consider getting one. Chocolate suede matches well with jeans, makes for nice casual summer jackets imho!
Well said. Perfect weather right now for this weight. There's a little bit of Fade to the color in the video.

Old suede can be risky to buy. Both these jackets are quite nice.

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I see Aero is producing the Suede Majestic. Very nice indeed!

This is the latest in my line of Suede half-belts.

this is California Sportswear Californian. A bit big for me, size tag says either 46/48. It certainly feels that size.

There are a lot of interesting Suede jackets out there. At least I see them. Most are more recent than the jackets in this thread. I stay with the older ones which don't come around that often.

I'm a big fan of California Sportswear jackets. They typically are high quality, nicely made and interesting.

This jacket has a V wartime Talon zipper. Roll up cuffs, traditional half-belt styling with adjustments.

California Sportswear Californian.


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Getting the best color when photographing can be difficult. They change in the light.

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Roll up cuffs


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This jacket has a V wartime Talon zipper.



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Plain light weight lining

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Cuffs up and down

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Traditional half-belt back with side adjustments

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A bit big for me, size tag says either 46/48. It certainly feels that size.



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HI
Here is the Windward
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Two beauties from the 40s. The top line is probably a bit earlier. It has a sunrise Talon stop, with a plane V pull.

According to dinnerman the top-line series was limited to mid-forties. The V Talon zipper is WW2

The second jacket is a Windward from the late forties. Has a horse hide label.

I would guess the top line is a deerskin suede.
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Hi TM
I have a Topline and I'd appreciate it if you could have a look and let me know your thoughts. It's the same as yours except in 2 details. One - the end of the cuffs have belt tighteners and the zip is a spring loaded Crown. Do you have any info you could share about it?
 

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tmitchell59

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Hi TM
I have a Topline and I'd appreciate it if you could have a look and let me know your thoughts. It's the same as yours except in 2 details. One - the end of the cuffs have belt tighteners and the zip is a spring loaded Crown. Do you have any info you could share about it?

I saw your Californian. There are similar jackets in the Sears Catalog. I have two other Topline jackets, though not suede. Topline name first appears in the 1941 catalog and does not appear in the 1944 catalog. A name that infers top quality.

Remember that Sears was not a manufacturer. Very possible that California Sportswear Company made jackets for sears. Sears started using "made in California " in their catalog around 1944. This phrase also appears on some labels through out the 1950s.

Here is the 1940 catalog

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1941 with first mention of Topline

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1942

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1943

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1944

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Dilkit

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Hello TM. Thanks for the info and the xlnt catalogue pictures. I’ll be downloading. Very pleased with my topline. I was a bit worried re the Crown zip compared with your Talon. But it looks and feels authentic.
Thanks again
 

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I saw your Californian. There are similar jackets in the Sears Catalog. I have two other Topline jackets, though not suede. Topline name first appears in the 1941 catalog and does not appear in the 1944 catalog. A name that infers top quality.

Remember that Sears was not a manufacturer. Very possible that California Sportswear Company made jackets for sears. Sears started using "made in California " in their catalog around 1944. This phrase also appears on some labels through out the 1950s.

Here is the 1940 catalog

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1941 with first mention of Topline

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Very interesting to see all those capeskin jackets advertised. While it is understandable why you don't find many actual vintage 40s capeskin jackets, as they don't last as long as other leather, I wonder why none of the repro guys hasn't done one. I only see the A-1 capeskin in the repro market.
Cool posts guys.
 

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Hello TM. Thanks for the info and the xlnt catalogue pictures. I’ll be downloading. Very pleased with my topline. I was a bit worried re the Crown zip compared with your Talon. But it looks and feels authentic.
Thanks again
My understanding is that vintage spring-loaded Crown zips are very desirable and sell for up to $500 apiece when NOS. You may have something there, but I will leave it to TFL experts to opine.
 

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