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By now it may well be transparent. It was on the teacore super-highway.
Haha. That’s true. It may well be past the point of looking good. We all draw that particular line somewhere.
By now it may well be transparent. It was on the teacore super-highway.
I’d be curious to see it but would expect it to be almost like a natural hide at this point. Went from black to almost light brown in record time! It’s funny but googling Diamond Dave Buco doesn’t yield any result for that jacket, which is surprising as I think it was the most documented DD ever produced. Kind of a shame as I wouldn’t mind revisiting the evolution.Haha. That’s true. It may well be past the point of looking good. We all draw that particular line somewhere.
It’s funny you mention that. I used to worry about having that problem myself when I started buying leather jackets. Obviously there is a point at which cool looking patina and wear just starts to look ratty and worn out. As it stands I don’t think I will ever know anything about that because none of my jackets get enough wear to ever hope to reach that stage.Haha. That’s true. It may well be past the point of looking good. We all draw that particular line somewhere.
This one?I’d be curious to see it but would expect it to be almost like a natural hide at this point. Went from black to almost light brown in record time! It’s funny but googling Diamond Dave Buco doesn’t yield any result for that jacket, which is surprising as I think it was the most documented DD ever produced. Kind of a shame as I wouldn’t mind revisiting the evolution.
It’s funny you mention that. I used to worry about having that problem myself when I started buying leather jackets. Obviously there is a point at which cool looking patina and wear just starts to look ratty and worn out. As it stands I don’t think I will ever know anything about that because none of my jackets get enough wear to ever hope to reach that stage.
That’s the one! I found it too with some additional keywords. It really was a fast moving patina.
Yeah lots of deep cracks and flaking topcoat. That’s not damage...it’s PATINA!Exactly. See it all the time in listings for vintage jackets. The seller pitching something like— Awesome, beautiful patina, decades in the making and you can have it now! And I’m on the other side thinking— Nope, not at all, that’s just a ratty-ass jacket dude.
I’m totally with you. It feels like an idol has just been killed.The reputation of the most revered jacket on TFL destroyed just like that with a few super imposed red arrows pointing out its intrinsic flaws... I wonder if we were happier back then when we didn’t know...![]()
It's interesting, the jacket with the flaws was the remake. The first jacket A1 received had much cleaner stitching allover.The reputation of the most revered jacket on TFL destroyed just like that with a few super imposed red arrows pointing out its intrinsic flaws... I wonder if we were happier back then when we didn’t know...![]()
We all knew it was flawed even back then. I'm pretty sure A1 was well aware too, wasn't he?The reputation of the most revered jacket on TFL destroyed just like that with a few super imposed red arrows pointing out its intrinsic flaws... I wonder if we were happier back then when we didn’t know...![]()
I wasn't on this forum back then so I can't comment on that.I wonder if we were happier back then when we didn’t know...![]()
Stitch work on the DD looks absolutely terrible btw
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The reputation of the most revered jacket on TFL destroyed just like that with a few super imposed red arrows pointing out its intrinsic flaws... I wonder if we were happier back then when we didn’t know...![]()
All valid points and I’m the first to appreciate a neatly constructed jacket with a high stitch count, just wondering whether this approach of putting everything under a magnifying glass is bringing any more enjoyment to the table... or sucking a bit of fun out of this hobby after all. Not criticising anyone’s approach... just thinking out loud.
I think we got to a stage in the past few months where the amount of numbers and measurements and close up pictures of jacket details has gone through the roof. The approach has become much more “scientific” if you like. A very quality driven approach to clothing. I don’t know if that’s my thing... jeez I crunch numbers all day at work already![]()
I still think there is a different between fading and leather turns raw losing the top paint dry out and cracking, however even with that smooth fading I dunno how I would feel when in one year a black leather jacket turns almost completely light brown with here and there little speck of black, it is almost the same with some jeans that is engineered to quickly fade.Haha. That’s true. It may well be past the point of looking good. We all draw that particular line somewhere.
the base of the sleeve is all puckering because he didn't make cuts to the folded edge inside, and DD seemed like never heard of glue... pocket frame is always glued down or at least double side taped to stay in place before sewing.It's interesting, the jacket with the flaws was the remake. The first jacket A1 received had much cleaner stitching allover.
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The flaws shown in my previous post also show that neat stitching is about more than just esthetics. Those rips in the corners of the double welt pockets would not have been there if they were neatly stitched.
I think people need to realize that there are "aesthetical" mistakes and then there's "construction" mistakes. What I mean is that if the wonky stitching or seams don't affect the strenght of the jacket then it's a flaw, an ugly one but not critical to the integrity of the jacket.
Should a visual mistake be passed on to the customer? Well, maybe if a discount was offered and the customer is aware before shipping and accepts it but not otherwise. The maker should just correct it without having to think twice about it, after all it's a premium product at a expensive price, mistakes shouldn't go out the door. They could just sell the jacket as seconds or at a steep discount and I'm sure anyone would buy it but that then affects the image of the brand or maker which I guess some don't want.
Should a structural mistake be passed on to the customer? NEVER
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That's critical Dude. In the review community it's getting harder to tell who is a shill and who is legit. We live in a saturated world of phoney product 'reviews' - this era's slightly more cunning marketing strategies. People buy things based on a tissue of lies.
I was thinking the same thing, good old @A-1 and his DD Buco. The jacket couldn’t have been that badly put together if it stood up to everything he threw at it.
My own DD A-2 has not seen nearly as much wear but it is a well-made jacket and one I like to wear from time to time.
There's a good point, should the seller or the buyer pay for return carriage? And what about additional insurance, who pays for that? An expensive jacket could go missing leaving the buyer out of pocket and no jacket. Thoughts!
Good question, if it is in the same country I would say on the seller. International orders, especially when customs are involved get too complicated to deal with
It’s funny you mention that. I used to worry about having that problem myself when I started buying leather jackets. Obviously there is a point at which cool looking patina and wear just starts to look ratty and worn out. As it stands I don’t think I will ever know anything about that because none of my jackets get enough wear to ever hope to reach that stage.