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combat jacket query

After the Fox

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Hi From London U.K
I bought a combat jacket donkey's years ago, I thought it was an M41, it's in OD cotton twill/gaberdine with dark brown wool lining, but then realised it didn't have epaulettes and I can't see any evidence of ever being any. So then I thought it was maybe a navy N4 version that didn't have epaulettes, but it doesn't look like that either, no USN on breast and it has buckle cinches at waist and sleeves. It has a tabbed button closure for collar. Just been looking around i/net but can't see anything resembling it , not an M38 or navy A-2 , seems to be a mix of all of 'em. hopefully it's obvious to you guys...
 

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EngProf

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No - definitely not a tanker jacket (winter combat jacket). Among other differences, tanker jackets have ribbed knit cuffs and bottom.
The closest thing I can see to that one is the M1941 arctic jacket. However, they were long and came down below your bottom to keep you warm.
I think it's a foreign version of a US pattern.
As an example, Norway made an almost dead-on copy of the M1943 jacket.
 

After the Fox

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Thanks so much for that , I'm sure the UK would not have made anything like this, we had our own battledress, so if anyone has any other ideas I'd be much obliged
Cheers
 

p51

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It's the acrtic jacket, all right.
Look at:
  • the lining, it's much heavier and a different color than M41's one.
  • The tape gathers at the bottom edge on each side and the cuffs. That's how you tell it from a M41. An M41 has button adjustments in both of those places.
The stitching underneath the color is correct for the Arctic jacket as well...
 

After the Fox

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It's the acrtic jacket, all right.
Look at:
  • the lining, it's much heavier and a different color than M41's one.
  • The tape gathers at the bottom edge on each side and the cuffs. That's how you tell it from a M41. An M41 has button adjustments in both of those places.
The stitching underneath the color is correct for the Arctic jacket as well...
excellent, thanks so much for that, I found a site showing differences between an original and a repro and it matches up completely, apart from epaulets, length and zip, so took a much closer look and can just see where the 4 stitch holes were for epaulet button on 1 side. Stitching looks wrong at bottom, so now assume it was cut off to look like an ordinary M41 or just more comfortable to wear. That original had a silver Talon zip, mine has a brass Conmar but guess whatever was available at time were used ?
Thanks again
It's the acrtic jacket, all right.
Look at:
  • the lining, it's much heavier and a different color than M41's one.
  • The tape gathers at the bottom edge on each side and the cuffs. That's how you tell it from a M41. An M41 has button adjustments in both of those places.
The stitching underneath the color is correct for the Arctic jacket as well...
 

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