Help with {date or identify} a hat please.....!

[milandro]

or use a common paper tape measure as the ones from Ikea and some double sided tape

 

[Frunobulax]

or use a common paper tape measure as the ones from Ikea and some double sided tape

I wouldn't trust that. Too much opportunity for bad measurements.

Unless you have a sizing ring.

 

[belfastboy]

I wouldn't trust that. Too much opportunity for bad measurements.

Unless you have a sizing ring.

Yes, selling a hat and listing a size that may not be accurate is just asking for headaches. I have sent a number of Ebay purchases back as they guesstimated the size in the listing without stating it was a 'guess'.

 

[Lori G]

 

[deadlyhandsome]

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It’s a modern era Stetson made by a company who bought the rights to the Stetson name years after Stetson went out of business and stopped making hats. The brim binding and crown ribbon/band along with the “orange” last drop liner make me suspect 1980s, but it could be later, and it really can’t be any earlier.

It looks to be a good daily wear hat, but it really isn’t very valuable on the used/vintage market.

 

[Lori G]

It’s a modern era Stetson made by a company who bought the rights to the Stetson name years after Stetson went out of business and stopped making hats. The brim binding and crown ribbon/band along with the “orange” last drop liner make me suspect 1980s, but it could be later, and it really can’t be any earlier.

It looks to be a good daily wear hat, but it really isn’t very valuable on the used/vintage market.

Thank you. That's exactly the info I was looking for.

 

[Yorkshire Lad]

Hat from EBay UK
Appears to have never been worn
Require confirmation that information I have found on this site regarding this hat is correct.
Resistol Roundup Collection R145 Gila under brand name of Kevin McAndrew. Sold by Sakowitz Dept Stores for $55.00.
Size 7,1/2 shrunk to 7,3/8 which fits perfectly.
Ref branding iron B R motif - Byer Rolnick and
Brown Sweat band dates the hat to before 1968?
Years of manufacture?
How expensive was a $55 hat in the 1960’s
Is this made from wool or other?
Why no indication as to the actual material used?
Many thanks

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Hat from EBay UK
Appears to have never been worn
Require confirmation that information I have found on this site regarding this hat is correct.
Resistol Roundup Collection R145 Gila under brand name of Kevin McAndrew. Sold by Sakowitz Dept Stores for $55.00.
Size 7,1/2 shrunk to 7,3/8 which fits perfectly.
Ref branding iron B R motif - Byer Rolnick and
Brown Sweat band dates the hat to before 1968?
Years of manufacture?
How expensive was a $55 hat in the 1960’s
Is this made from wool or other?
Why no indication as to the actual material used?
Many thanks

I think it’s a 1970s hat made after Byer-Rolnick sold out. I also think it’s a fur felt hat without any wool constant. A US size 7 ½ is a UK size 7 ⅜ so depending on which measurements you are using it might not have shrunk.

There are several online inflation calculators if you know the year and the original price. The year makes a lot of difference as inflation was rampant then.

 

[belfastboy]

I think it’s a 1970s hat made after Byer-Rolnick sold out. I also think it’s a fur felt hat without any wool constant. A US size 7 ½ is a UK size 7 ⅜ so depending on which measurements you are using it might not have shrunk.

There are several online inflation calculators if you know the year and the original price. The year makes a lot of difference as inflation was rampant then.

Yep in 1982-83 I had a 16.5% mortgage!!!

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Yep in 1982-83 I had a 16.5% mortgage!!!

Ouch! That hurts.

I live in a city where the median family income is $49,000 and the median home price is over $400,000…I still can’t figure that out. I keep thinking a big market correction is coming but it hasn’t come so far.

 

[Yorkshire Lad]

I think it’s a 1970s hat made after Byer-Rolnick sold out. I also think it’s a fur felt hat without any wool constant. A US size 7 ½ is a UK size 7 ⅜ so depending on which measurements you are using it might not have shrunk.

There are several online inflation calculators if you know the year and the original price. The year makes a lot of difference as inflation was rampant then.

Thanks for reply. Found this info from a post dated 2005 - The brown sweatbands are usually the older models. The black sweatbands are from the 1960s and newer
Regards

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Thanks for reply. Found this info from a post dated 2005 - The brown sweatbands are usually the older models. The black sweatbands are from the 1960s and newer
Regards

There are so many exceptions to this. As a general rule, this is accurate, but it’s not a sure thing across brands or even within a brand. Many hats made after the 1960s, including Resistols, have brown sweatbands. There are also some hats from far earlier than the 1960s that have black sweatbands; however, they are more common on hats made outside the US.

I believe the Roundup first appeared in the 1970s, and the $55 price also supports a 1970s or ‘80s date. I don’t see anything that puts it in the Byer-Rolnick era.

 

[Yorkshire Lad]

There are so many exceptions to this. As a general rule, this is accurate, but it’s not a sure thing across brands or even within a brand. Many hats made after the 1960s, including Resistols, have brown sweatbands. There are also some hats from far earlier than the 1960s that have black sweatbands; however, they are more common on hats made outside the US.

I believe the Roundup first appeared in the 1970s, and the $55 price also supports a 1970s or ‘80s date. I don’t see anything that puts it in the Byer-Rolnick era.

Thanks again for the additional info. Nothing is ever clear cut. With ref to the image of the branding iron showing the letters B R, I have also seen images of the branding iron with the letters R R. Any significance to this?

 

[georgie girl]

Looking to get an idea on the date of this 5x beaver resistol hat, that unfortunately doesn't have a liner to help out. I'm thinking 50's, but haven't had much experience with Resistol tags that it has which is a pen sticker 4258, and 3 numbers on the other tag: 484 (which I think is the block of the San Antonio model), 103926, and the size. Measurements are 2.75" brim and something like 5.5" oc. I did figure out the well worn original seller which was the Amarillo, TX Hub Clothiers, but they were around for quite a while including the 50's & 60's

All I can say about the felt is that it is softer (nicer) than my early 40's Dobbs Twenty (westward)

Sorry for the crappy cell phone photos and thanks for any help, cheers!

 

[Louis Mountbatten]

With the lettering printed on the sweat and that type of paper size label pasted inside, it seems like 1960s to me.