Technovox bid and won this jacket but it did not fit and he was generous in passing it on to me. A true Grail jacket. Had to have jacket relined and replace the main zipper (shipped from Langlitz). Everything else is original with the suggested date of manufacture, according to Scott at Langlitz, 1950's-60's. The leather smells awesome. I did put it through a gentle wash cycle to get rid of over 50 years of non-leather odors. Success! The leather may or may not be horsehide. But to me, I would guess horse. The leather is soft but durable. The patina, fantastic. Finding a grail that fits is wonderful.