New Eastman Star Sportswear A-2

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by GregGale, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. GregGale

    GregGale One of the Regulars

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    After a visit to the ELC popup store, I'm finally a proud owner of the jacket of my dreams. Thank you all for your help I got in my other thread. Let me share some thoughts and pictures.

    1) The store.
    Paradise on Earth. Seeing all those beautiful jackets in one place made my eyes dwell up with tears. The service and help was the best I've ever experienced. I spend there nearly 2 hours, trying on everything I possibly could, then again, and again. I was a real pain in the neck. They remained nice, helpful and very supportive. I can't recommend Eastman enough.

    2) Picking the Star
    I tried a cable raincoat and I quickly realized Havana brown was not for me. I tried a Star in 40 and 42, then a RW 27752 in 40 and 42. The RW 40 was way too small. The RW 42 was OK, but slightly baggier, not the trim fighter pilot look, if you know what I mean. There were large wrinkles on the torso and back. It was the most comfy one, and my girlfriend liked it a lot so there was a lot of pondering. The Star 42 was definitely too big, so it got out of the picture. Then came the Star 40. Perfect, trim fit, like a good glove. Only problem: the sleeves are a tad shorter than what I got used to on my Cockpit A-2. Still, less restrictive in movement. So I went for it.

    Then I tried a G-1. I wish I hadn't...that bi-swing back is a dream!!! My gf loved it too. Still, I went for the A-2, because I prefer A-2s.

    3) The Star
    Wow...simply wow...the quality of the horsehide is amazing. Great texture, not too rigid, weighs much less than my cockpit. The color is exactly what I was after. Dark seal brown with a rusty undertone. The more reddish knits go perfectly with it. The knits are so soft and flexible, I couldn't believe it. Pictures don't do justice...

    4) The Sizing: As I said the only problem at first was the length of the sleeves. I got used to my cockpit where the knits almost disappeared under the leather. Here it's different. Yet, even when I stretch my arms forward the sleeves don't slide up too much. I googled pictures and for example this is exactly how George Preddy's A-2 fit his arms too. Buying one with an inch added to the sleeves would have been too long I think.

    As for the measurements...I will never buy anything like this off the internet. I've been checking measurements for months, and mathematically a Star 40 could never have fit me. Even a 42 should have been too small. Reality is something else entirely due to different cuts and patterns.

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    PS: My Cockpit A-2 is now up for sale in the classifieds section ;)
     
  2. s4rmark

    s4rmark One of the Regulars

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    Great jacket, perfect fit. I too tried on a star sportswear when I was at the shop on Friday but I’ve lusted after an m422a for some time so ordered one . The star is on my shortlist for the future though!
     
  3. Brettafett

    Brettafett One Too Many

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    Gorgeous Greg. Love that hide.
    Agree, measurements can help, but not to be trusted as truth. I found the 42s fit me better and I usually wear 40s.
    Your jacket looks great and as long as you are happy with the fit.
    WW2 photos show fits ranging from trim to baggy, short to long... Its all over the place, and the only thing important is how you like your jacket to fit.
    (In fact look at pics of Robert Morgan of Memphis belle fame. Note the sleeves - https://alchetron.com/Robert-K-Morgan).
    I tried on almost every jacket... That new Mig Killer G-1 is awesome, but don't like the patches. I guess, my favs has to be a RW1401 and the HLB 75 special edition. Classic.
    M422as and the 55J14 G-1... Well, they are so good, one will eventually own one!
    That B-10! So comfortable. I still have mine from 2005... And its still amazing.
     
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  4. kowalski

    kowalski Practically Family

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    very nice jacket and have beautiful vintage color
    amazing
    Yes it true, fit is perfect

    imho litle similar in color and cut to my Eastman Rough Wear 1401P
    made in 97y;)
    But it's two different models
     

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  5. MeachamLake

    MeachamLake A-List Customer

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    Great jacket! It looks superb. Welcome to the Star Sportswear club, here's mine! :) I'm heading down to the shop on Wednesday, so hopefully there will be some good stuff left!

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  6. Stand By

    Stand By One Too Many

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    Welcome to this section of the bar, Greg, and I’m glad to see you’re well attired! Indeed, the Star fits you like it was made for you. I’m glad you’re so happy and your experience was so good - and as for the great jacket, it’s going to get a lot of wear!
    Wear it in good health and you can wear that proudly.
    Thanks for posting!
     
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  7. Carlos840

    Carlos840 Call Me a Cab

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    Great jacket! I was there last week and fell in love with the A1.
    Like you, i was surprised as the size 44 fit me best, but measurements of the 42 were on paper perfect for me.
    I didn't walk out with it as i want the 44L and they only have Regular in stock, but plan on ordering one very very soon.
     
  8. bn1966

    bn1966 Call Me a Cab

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    Congratulations on your purchases & orders Gents, visited 'Pop Up' Saturday & sized up a C-3 Vest for purchase early next year.

    All credit to the Eastman Team for pulling out all the stops :)

    Went from there for a swift beer & some street food prior to catching the Tube to Brentford for some more liquid refreshment :)
     
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  9. TREEMAN

    TREEMAN One Too Many

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    Great jacket...I notice they are being worn a little shorter lately.
     
  10. breezer

    breezer Practically Family

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    or maybe people are wearing their jeans higher? The skinny / low slung denim look is finally receding into the past...
     
  11. El Marro

    El Marro One Too Many

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    I'm a bit jealous, and also a bit relieved, that we don't have these Eastman pop up events here in the states. Jealous because I would love to have the opportunity to try on all of those jackets under one roof and talk to the folks from Eastman at the same time. Relieved because the price of entry seems rather high, nobody gets out of there without buying themselves something nice!
     
  12. Brettafett

    Brettafett One Too Many

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    I know. I ordered. The trick of leaving wallet at home doesn't work here...
     
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  13. BowsTrading

    BowsTrading Familiar Face

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    star sportswear of my own 20171026_085431 (1)_edited.jpg
     
  14. CBI

    CBI One Too Many

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    great looking A-2's!!!!
     
  15. GregGale

    GregGale One of the Regulars

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    Despite the cold weather I've been trying to wear my Star A-2 as much as possible in order to break it in. I also gave it a very gentle shower (it didn't get soaked), and wore it while it dried. As a result of the above, now I have no doubt size 40 is my size, it got much more comfortable in the shoulders and the armpits. Fits like a glove!

    However, the sleeves were just right before, and now after some creasing, they got a tad shorter than I imagined. I'm getting a bit worried that maybe I should have ordered a long version with an added inch. Then again, I remembered Brett's photo of Robert Morgan, and found this other one on the internet - looks like this is the way A-2s used to fit tall and thin pilots:

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    The sleeves of my A-2 is certainly longer than these. I'm also thinking that any added length would have thrown off the ratio of the factory pattern... I there such a thing as "post jacket purchase uncertainty syndrome"? :D
     
  16. El Marro

    El Marro One Too Many

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    Greg,
    Yes, "post jacket purchase uncertainty syndrome" is real and I have experienced it more than once...
    I wouldn't worry too much about the sleeves. Remember the long size also adds length to the torso and I think that would make the jacket too long for you.
    Your jacket looks great! Relax, wear, and enjoy!
     
  17. CBI

    CBI One Too Many

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    your sleeves looks OK. Sleeve length was all over the map back then. Looks at the difference between Robert Morgan's sleeves and the guy behind him. The Doolittle Raider photos are cool and show sizing all over the map. Frankly a number of the Doolittle guys are wearing jackets that are just too small for them but that's what they were issued.
     
  18. GregGale

    GregGale One of the Regulars

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    Here are some pics after getting some creases. Sleeves are OK until I reach far forward - but then, A-2s don't have bi-swing backs.

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  19. nick123

    nick123 I'll Lock Up

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    ^totally normal. Don’t let an inch kill you. Sleeve ride-up happens with some jackets. If we could go back in time many of us would add an inch to this and that, but my advice is to just enjoy the jacket. That wasn’t innuendo. Lol
     
  20. s4rmark

    s4rmark One of the Regulars

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    Looks a perfect fit to me.
     

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