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Old British army sizing

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by Rufus, Oct 8, 2007.

  1. Rufus

    Rufus Practically Family

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    Yet another question for ye knowledgeable gentlemen..


    WW2 British army sizing..Is there a chart?

    Ie - Sizes 4,5,6 etc., What do these actually acquate to?

    I'm looking to get a dispatch rider's jacket, but can't work out what size I'd need. (I'm size 38/40)



    Thank you for any assistance!

    Rufus
     
  2. John Lever

    John Lever One Too Many

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    Rufus, about 7 years ago I was watching a leather British Dispatch Riders Coat with the single pocket. It sold for £20 with only one bid !
    Those were the days ...

    I have a WW2 jerkin size No. 2. Height 5' 7 '' to 5' 10 ''
    Breast 37 '' to 43 ''
    I take a size 44 in current repro's. . This is a very generous fit.

    Good luck, John
     
  3. Trotsky

    Trotsky A-List Customer

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    The sizes would go up: for example a man 5' 10" in height and a 32" waist would be a size 9. A size 10 would be a 6' 0" and 32" waist. Each series of three sizes would have short, average and tall then start over.
    Dispatch riders coats will be a different sizing system from Battledress. It seems really quite complex today but it had its place in the army then. I have a list of BD sizes somewhere on the 'ol HDD. But Coats would be different.
     
  4. Rufus

    Rufus Practically Family

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    Cheers Trotsky, if you can find them, would be appreciated!
    .. and thanks John!

    :) Ruf
     
  5. BellyTank

    BellyTank I'll Lock Up

    I posted a chart of just such a thing, somewhere on the Lounge...
    a wee while back...
    Paddy will know where... :rolleyes:

    I'll see if I can spot them-

    B
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  6. BellyTank

    BellyTank I'll Lock Up

    Here 'tis-

    Twas here:
    http://thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=7737&highlight=british+army+sizing

    You probably need a 9, 11, 12, or 14..., depending on your height


    Battle Dress Blouse Sizes

    Size Waist Breast Height

    #1 32-33 32-33 5'3-5'4
    #2 30-31 29-30 5'3-5'4
    #3 31-32 33-36 5'3-5'4
    #4 30-31 33-36 5'5-5'6
    #5 31-32 36-37 5'5-5'6
    #6 34-35 38-39 5'7-5'8
    #7 32-34 35-36 5'7-5'8
    #8 35-36 37-38 5'7-5'8
    #9 37-38 39-40 5'7-5'8
    #10 31-32 36-37 5'9-5'10
    #11 33-34 38-39 5'9-5'10
    #12 35-36 40-41 5'9-5'10
    #13 33-34 38-39 5'11-6'0
    #14 35-36 39-40 5'11-6'0
    #15 37-38 42-43 5'11-6'0
    #16 34-35 39-40 6'0-6'2
    #17 37-38 43-44 6'0-6'2
    #18 38-39 43-44 6'0-6'2
    #19 35-36 40-41 5'5-5'6


    Battle Dress Trouser Sizes

    Size Waist Inseam Height

    #1 32-33 28 5'3-5'4
    #2 30-31 28 5'3-5'4
    #3 31-32 30 5'3-5'4
    #4 30-31 30 5'5-5'6
    #5 31-32 30 5'5-5'6
    #6 34-35 30 5'7-5'8
    #7 32-34 30 5'7-5'8
    #8 35-36 30 5'7-5'8
    #9 37-38 30 5'7-5'8
    #10 31-32 32 5'9-5'10
    #11 33-34 32 5'9-5'10
    #12 35-36 32 5'9-5'10
    #13 33-34 32 5'11-6'0
    #14 35-36 32 5'11-6'0
    #15 37-38 32 5'11-6'0
    #16 34-35 32 6'0-6'2
    #17 37-38 32 6'0-6'2
    #18 38-39 32 6'0-6'2
    #19 35-36 30 5'5-5'6

    Got any more awkward questions..?

    B
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  7. Edward

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    I always knew I could get down to a size 12 or 14 (just not quite how I'd manage it! :p ). Very useful, BT - I'm still watching for the fabled eBay bargain on an original Irvin, this will keep me right. :)
     
  8. Rufus

    Rufus Practically Family

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    Thanks Belly Tank, you're a star!

    :) Rufus
     
  9. Alan Eardley

    Alan Eardley One Too Many

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    Just to add that the sizes are not necessarily consistent across different clothing items and different arms of service. So a Size 1 Army Battledress Blouse would not necessarily fit the same size person as a Size 1 RAF Flying Jacket.

    You can often only use the size chart for item you are interested in to judge different sizes and the size ranges (i.e. Size 1 to Size X) are widely different.

    Alan
     
  10. Edward

    Edward Bartender

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    Alan, to clarify... do you mean that there was no uniform Size 12 across all garments, or do you mean that the sizes above relate to the garments, i.e. in the way I would need a 44" chest Irvin to go over a 42" chest battle tunic, and so couldn't assume I would always be one uniform size across the full range of garments?
     
  11. Alan Eardley

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    Edward

    There was (is?) no uniform sizing across all garments across all arms of service.

    Alan
     
  12. Don't want to create a whole new thread for what is precisely the same subject, but can anyone tell me what an "A" suffix means in terms of battle dress size? I'm currently looking at a size "12A" on eBay and while size 12 would fit me perfectly, I don't know if a size 12A would. The item has no other size markings - no inch listings.

    Any ideas?
     

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