Discussion in 'Hats' started by Davidson, Apr 7, 2007.
This looks great!
A total rebirth of a great old hat. Any idea of the era this one came from?
Any tips on hats to look for to convert? I know the more x's and the older the more likely better. I am curious on some of the cheaper hats I can find, its really hard to tell if they are all wool or have some fur and some look like fairly recent manufacture. If I wind up with a 100 percent wool hat by taking a chance on some cheap ones is it still possible to come out with a decent looking conversion? Are recent stetson open roads with a cattleman's crease likely to be pointless to try to convert or not? Thanks.
I've did about 25 conversions a couple of them were wool they turned out pretty good.Fur felt is better.
If you want a lot of crown in a fedora for a conversion, cruise eBay and find a clean vintage western hat.
If you get an OR, I wouldn't say there's much converting yo be done. The brims are under 3 inches. Maybe a rebash into a diamond crease or something if you want, but the crowns on recent ones are very, very stiff.
Try thrifting, find something cheap to do a practice run on. If you feel confident enough, maybe seel out a Stagecoach or something.
Although I never personally seek out western hats to convert. I seek out fedoras, and when a western hat falls into my hands, I personalize it.
You shouldn't be too concerned about the quality for your first conversion(s). The goal should be to learn while having fun ... not to reach a fine, good looking result. When you have learned to restore a hat, you should go for better quality. And yes, it'll cost you some not too satisfying results at first - like in any other learning process.
I would say like Woody Guthrie: "Take it easy - but take it". It's a wonderful hobby
I have not quite figured out crown heights, open vs what you wind up with. I don't like really tall crowns on me when I look in the mirror but I like them fine on other folks and in photos here. I assume to do a diamond bash without a lot of taper it takes more crown height to start with.
Western weight is typical heavier than dress weight but some vintage westerns are lighter than their modern brethren. I look for older model Resistol or Stetson western hats that give me enough brim to trim & crown to crease. Look for vintage Adam & other lesser know western model...I have found a couple of unworn, open crown fur felt vintage that worked well converting to a fedora or outback. HTH
Yep..I agree. At times also some lesser desired name brand hats can be purchased far cheaper as well.
Hey, Ole! Good to see you!
Not failing to mention, tools and material make the difference in any conversion. When I first started doing them I used a paint can with bubble wrap to block my first couple of hats. They came out fairly good but coming across an actual hat block was far better. I used a utility knife and a Stanley tape measure to cut my first brims, came out nice enough, but a rounding jack was much better and more accurate. I used to shape my 2 3/4 brims by hand, but coming across a 2 3/4 brim flange made a world of difference. Only problem is, I can only flange 2 3/4 brims. I definitely need more tools. I have nowhere near enough...social security and a part time warehouse job don't pay well. I hate old age.
On another note, I did yet another rework on this Resistol 3X. I used Selleck's Quigley Down Under hat as inspiration. The brim came out good but I didn't care much for the crown after I saw a picture of Selleck's Crossfire Trail hat. So, another reblocking on the crown and afterward, another recreasing. I raised up the back of the crown and lowered the front pinch. Since I don't like a lot of taper in a crown I was careful not to get too extravagant on the Gus crease. I used the Crossfire crown for inspiration adding my own modifications. ..here it is for the third time. Still not sure about the ribbon, though.
Reworked and on the head...not a good picture, though
It's all about the tools, or the Bass
Its a unique look,I like it.
Thanks, buddy. I appreciate that.
Looks like the 6-ply brown. Maybe a two- or three-ply with only a knot and "two loose ends" would be better for that look - like the original(?)
A good friend gave me that brown 6 ply. It's a hard one to come by these days. Yeah, I like the 2-3 ply thin ribbons. I would have probably went with one but I'm a little ribbon shy at the moment. Always good to hear from you. Hope all is well.
If you are looking to buy some new ribbon what do you call the thin ribbon used on open roads and clones? Some of it looks tubular. Is there a tutorial on ribbon making or tying?
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