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Out of those which would you say, in your opinion, is best value ?

"Value" is an entirely subjective, personal determination. TFH t-shirts are arguably the best made of the group, but at $160 each (SE's new price posted yesterday), that is not what I would describe as a good "value." SO and PBJ t-shirts are not far behind cost wise. Warehouse t-shirts are a better value at approximately $70 each (they are also lighter than TFH). RMC t-shirts are slightly more expensive than Warehouse (and, IMHO, slightly better made), but less than SO and PBJ. Thus, I guess I would say that Warehouse is, IMHO, the best "value" of the group, and RMC is also a good value.
 

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"Value" is an entirely subjective, personal determination. TFH t-shirts are arguably the best made of the group, but at $160 each (SE's new price posted yesterday), that is not what I would describe as a good "value." SO and PBJ t-shirts are not far behind cost wise. Warehouse t-shirts are a better value at approximately $70 each (they are also lighter than TFH). RMC t-shirts are slightly more expensive than Warehouse (and, IMHO, slightly better made), but less than SO and PBJ. Thus, I guess I would say that Warehouse is, IMHO, the best "value" of the group, and RMC is also a good value.
Many thanks for tking the time
I'll take a look - The Warehouse ones do look well made but only seem to go up to a 42 which is a shame
 
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Good read indeed. As much as I want to try one of the high end Ts Superfluous and some others recommend, I usually wear them to ride. By the end of the day they are wet (rain and/or perspiration) and splattered with bugs and whatever else my debauchery brings. Kirkland all the way for me. Destroy them and throw away.

The article is dead on accurate about the Kirkland’s thickness. They feel substantial, which I like.
 

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Look what a clever chap on Reddit made, based on that article: https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashio...e_great_white_tshirt_review_18_brands_ranked/

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What makes no sense to me is that supposedly all of those are tag size "large". WTF? Either they're not "large" or the guy that made the article doesn't know how to measure pit to pit.

All of these shirts were tagged “Large” by their manufacturer
 

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What makes no sense to me is that supposedly all of those are tag size "large". WTF? Either they're not "large" or the guy that made the article doesn't know how to measure pit to pit.

Tee shirts are usually pretty small pit to pit in relation to tagged size. Those measurements are accurate.
 

Big J

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@Peter,
Thanks for posting that link.
It's really interesting that the guy rates Costco's own brand Kirkland pretty highly, considering so many loungers have independently made them the 'white T of choice'. I guess a lot of us really do know quality when we see it.
That said, I'm going to give a couple of T's of Superluous' list a try. Who knows, maybe I'll be converted? Don't know until you try.
 

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Ha! Ain't that the problem!

The older I get, the more I find there is no difference beyond the superficial between any area of interest that involves spending money. When I first played guitar, I could barely tell one Fender from the next across all price-bands. Then I wanted the most expensive one, because, y'know, best. These days, I don't need to spend the most to be sure I got a good one - indeed, I also have a much greater awareness of how much I'm prepared to spend, where the differences lie, what matters to me, where *I* feel the best value lies *for me*... It's been the same with leather jackets, laptops, boots, stereos, fountain pens.... I guess the secret is gaining the experience and the confidence to know what makes *you* happy, and the good grace to recognise it's all subjective....

It's interesting, though, what we tend to stick with paying the big money for and what, with experience, we come back to cheap on. I'm currently in love with my thirty dollar Wrangler MWZ13 Rigid jeans in a way that I've never been with the vast majority of often much more expensive jeans I've owned....
 
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It's interesting, though, what we tend to stick with paying the big money for and what, with experience, we come back to cheap on. I'm currently in love with my thirty dollar Wrangler MWZ13 Rigid jeans in a way that I've never been with the vast majority of often much more expensive jeans I've owned....

I'll admit it here that I much prefer G-star jeans to any other I've tried, including IH's. I've got one pair that I swear is actually as heavy as IH's 21 oz stuff.
 

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Interesting and thorough write-up by Heddels. Thanks for posting.

Unfortunately, they do not review the t-shirts that I personally favor (e.g., TFH, SO, RMC, PBJ, Warehouse, etc.). I am confident that the outcome would have been very different had these brands been included.

The writer concluded that the Lady White was the best of the reviewed t-shirts. I have a Lady White t-shirt and it is a simple, no-nonsense, well-made product. That said, TFH, SO, RMC, PBJ, and Warehouse t-shirts, among others, are – IMHO – far better. Of course, they are also more expensive.

My biggest gripe with the article was the writer’s downgrading of t-shirts that did not fit him well, coupled with his failure to purchase the proper size of each model. The writer purchased a size large of each t-shirt, regardless of the varied dimensions of each individual brand. The dimensions of size “large” vary dramatically from brand to brand. With some brands (e.g., SO), I wear an XL. With other brands (e.g., Filson), I wear a small. Given that the reviewer purchased a large of every shirt, without regard for variations in dimensions, he was guaranteed to have many shirts that did not fit him well/properly. Had fit not been a component of the review and ranking, the reviewer’s myopic focus on size large would not have been a problem. However, the reviewed exalted the fit of certain brands and likewise strongly criticized the fit of other brands, and these variations factored significantly in his overall review/ranking. The reviewer should have looked at the dimensions of each t-shirt – as any savvy buyer does – and endeavored to purchase the best fitting size in each brand.

Lastly, the reviewer did not review the best model t-shirt offered by each reviewed brand. For example, Sugar Cane offers Whitesville t-shirts in both the light/medium weight two-pack model and the heavy weight singles. The heavy weight is twice as expensive and palpably better. The reviewer reviewed the lessor two-pack model. The reviewer also did not review the best t-shirts offered by Left Field and Velva Sheen (in my experience, even the better Left Field and Velva Sheen t-shirts are overrated).
 

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Tee shirts are usually pretty small pit to pit in relation to tagged size. Those measurements are accurate.
I have a wardrobe full of t-shirts, usually tagged as 'large', and the pit to pit is usually 23-24. None are 21". Maybe because I buy shirts with a taper they get to run wider around the chest, as opposed to the boxy ones? I'm talking about regular casual t-shirts and polos, not sports brand t-shirts, which in American sizes are MUCH larger still.

EDIT: I was thinking that perhaps I stretch t-shirts out in the chest a bit and they started out smaller, but then that most recent purchase of mine were the Uniqlo t-shirts I mentioned here- the L in those is 22 across the chest, (one of the larger measurements on the table), and it was too small for me, so I got the XL.
 
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Really - I have over twenty large t-shirts in three brands they are all 21 p to p.

The Kirklands are bloody useless to me because they are 26.5 inches long. I never tuck in a t-shirt and need them to be around 23 inches long for them to work properly as outerwear.
 

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Interesting and thorough write-up by Heddels. Thanks for posting.

Unfortunately, they do not review the t-shirts that I personally favor (e.g., TFH, SO, RMC, PBJ, Warehouse, etc.). I am confident that the outcome would have been very different had these brands been included.

The writer concluded that the Lady White was the best of the reviewed t-shirts. I have a Lady White t-shirt and it is a simple, no-nonsense, well-made product. That said, TFH, SO, RMC, PBJ, and Warehouse t-shirts, among others, are – IMHO – far better. Of course, they are also more expensive.

My biggest gripe with the article was the writer’s downgrading of t-shirts that did not fit him well, coupled with his failure to purchase the proper size of each model. The writer purchased a size large of each t-shirt, regardless of the varied dimensions of each individual brand. The dimensions of size “large” vary dramatically from brand to brand. With some brands (e.g., SO), I wear an XL. With other brands (e.g., Filson), I wear a small. Given that the reviewer purchased a large of every shirt, without regard for variations in dimensions, he was guaranteed to have many shirts that did not fit him well/properly. Had fit not been a component of the review and ranking, the reviewer’s myopic focus on size large would not have been a problem. However, the reviewed exalted the fit of certain brands and likewise strongly criticized the fit of other brands, and these variations factored significantly in his overall review/ranking. The reviewer should have looked at the dimensions of each t-shirt – as any savvy buyer does – and endeavored to purchase the best fitting size in each brand.

Lastly, the reviewer did not review the best model t-shirt offered by each reviewed brand. For example, Sugar Cane offers Whitesville t-shirts in both the light/medium weight two-pack model and the heavy weight singles. The heavy weight is twice as expensive and palpably better. The reviewer reviewed the lessor two-pack model. The reviewer also did not review the best t-shirts offered by Left Field and Velva Sheen (in my experience, even the better Left Field and Velva Sheen t-shirts are overrated).
As usual, Heddels does what appears to be a good job on the surface, but is a cut-rate job once analyzed further.
 

Big J

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But Heddels get a lot of page views and traffic though. Hundreds of shares and comments. Must be popular.
 

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