Akubra questions

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Edw8ri, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. There isn’t a great amount of consistency. I’ve never seen or owned an Akubra that I’d call floppy, at least not one that wasn’t very well-used. Some have a fairly soft hand/finish, but the felt has mostly been of the firm variety. That said, I’ve owned Imperial grade Campdrafts that had vastly different felt.

    if you don’t mind a raw edge, like the Fed IV, why not find a used western in your size and cut the brim down? You can have a fedora with the stiff western felt you want.
     

  2. I wasn’t sure what this meant either.
     
  3. 1967Cougar390

    1967Cougar390 Practically Family

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    All of my Akubra hats are very consistent in regards to stiffness. I just received two Stylemaster’s this past week and my Acorn Fawn was work in a heavy rain and the brim still snaps up or down after it dried. I like the stiffness of my Akubra’s compared to my moder Stetson Stratoliner’s. The Stratoliner felt is much softer when comparing them to the Akubra felts.
    I’ll buy another Stratoliner but for my money Akubra seems the better of the two felts in my opinion.

    My Stratoliner’s are royal felt (low end) and my Akubra’s are Imperial grade felt (low end).
    Two Stratoliner’s one in Walnut and the other in Silverbelly.
    Akubra’s, Fed IV’s in Moonstone, Tawny Fawn. Stylemaster’s in Bluegrass Green, Acorn Fawn, Carbon Grey. Sydney in Regency Fawn.

    I hope this helps.

    Steven
     
  4. St.Ignatz

    St.Ignatz Call Me a Cab

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    I own three CD's in Imperial felt and a Heritage Fed IV. They are all true to size and all need to be rained on a few times. Cupping has not been a problem on any of them. I prefer the Imperial for its softness and willingness to take and hold a shaping.

    Tom D.
     
  5. BIGG SHOW

    BIGG SHOW Familiar Face

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    Thank you all for your input. I appreciate it. Just to clarify what I wrote - 'hold without the crown/middle of the hat dropping down' - I mean a brim strong enough to stay flat and not “fold over”. Meaning the brim alone is stiff enough to hold the weight of the whole hat all together. Not sure if that makes any sense? It’s not complicated yet it is proving to be surprisingly difficult to explain via words alone.
    As far as trimming the brim on an old western weight felt hat. That would be great if I could find one in my size that appeals to my taste. Haven’t seen any thus far. Online or in person. Is the Campdraft brim stiff? I saw a YouTube video from Kevin @ JJ Hat center where he places a pair of folded sunglasses on the brim of a Bushman hat and the brim didn’t move. Would that be the same with a Campdraft? The Bushman is too much brim for my personal taste.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. 1967Cougar390

    1967Cougar390 Practically Family

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    I would think the felt stiffness would be about the same for the most part. All of my Akubra’s are in the 2-1/2” brim range, regardless of model the felts seem the same to me. The factor that I would lend to a less stiff brim is its width. The wider the brim, I would tend to believe the more flexible it would become. Just my thoughts.

    Steven
     
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  7. I just sold a Campdraft that was super soft. The nap was almost a long hair finish and the felt was unlike any of my other Akubras. As for a
    Western conversion, it’s possible to completely reshape the crown and brim so I don’t know what you’re not finding to your liking. Get a color you like, pop out the old crease, work out the old crease lines, re-crease the crown, trim the brim, shape the brim...it’s actually pretty easy.

    If you get a hat that you wish was stiffer it’s an easy thing to mix up some blonde shellac or buy a commercial hat stiffening agent and firm it up. What’s hard is getting a stiff hat to soften up.

    I’d say that most of my Campdrafts had felt similar to my Bushman. The Stylemasters that I’ve owned also seemed to be similar, but there has definitely been variations in the Akubras I’ve owned.
     
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  8. Gobi

    Gobi Familiar Face

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    When new they are fairly stiff. You could probably hold it by the brim with minimal flex. However, after rain and handling, they become soft. My Imperial Campdraft which is very much broken in, is very soft and almost "floppy". You cannot pick it up by the brim without the brim bending all the way and folding in on itself. You could do that when it was new. I dont see a problem with the softness since it bounces back into shape after bending. If it just flopped and stayed that way like a piece of cloth, that would be an issue.
     
  9. belfastboy

    belfastboy I'll Lock Up

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    I have two CD, a blue grass green and a silverbelly. Both I would categorize as stiff brimmed. The blue grass snaps down very well but the silverbelly doesn't so I just wear it up all the time. And if I understand you the CD brim and crown stand up well on their own. The CD offers great value for your money.
     
  10. 1961MJS

    1961MJS My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Hi
    From what I've done and read, you don't want to put your hat down on the brim because the brim will change shape, that's why they make hat stands. You can also lay them on the crown. For some reason, it's much easier to disfigure the brim than it is the crown.

    https://bernardhats.com/all-about-hats/cowboy-hat-etiquette/

    Mainly this part "Never lay a cowboy hat down on the brim. Place your hat on it’s crown, brim up. You may also use a hat stand or rack."

    Hope this helps. I was TRYING to find where to get the less expensive hat stands, but they don't seem to make them anymore. I also have three glass heads from Pier 1 Imports and they're out too.

    Later
     
  11. dkstott

    dkstott One of the Regulars

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    My Banjo Patterson was really stiff at first to the point that even if I wanted to, I couldn't turn the brims up.

    Now after 6 months of daily wear (5 mile hikes, yard work, etc) and a few rain storm soakings, It's really flexible and soft to the touch. The brims still prefer to be down, but they will flip up. The sides still have some of the original stiffness.

    The crown will just about take any crease that I want without steam now.. But I tend to leave it in the original teardrop crease.
     
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  12. 1967Cougar390

    1967Cougar390 Practically Family

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    I made a short video this morning. When new, I steamed the crown and brim on my Fed IV and it has held up well to date. I hope my video provides some insight into your question about the stiffness.



    Steven
     
  13. BIGG SHOW

    BIGG SHOW Familiar Face

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    Hello all,
    Wow! You all are awesome! I appreciate the information. It is a big help. Mr 1967Cougar390, thank you kindly for the video Sir! How do you like the Fed? Where does it rank in your personal comparison to the Stylemaster?

    Cheers!
     
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  14. 1967Cougar390

    1967Cougar390 Practically Family

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    In reference to comparing the Fed IV to the Stylemaster, I can’t pick one over the other. Both types have their place in my rotation. I wear a lot of polo shirts when I’m not working. The Stylemaster in my opinion is a little more casual, so I reach for the Stylemaster more often. The Fed IV can also be worn casually, but in my rotation I wear it more with button up shirts. I’m actually wearing my Moonstone Fed IV today with a polo. I received a compliment on my Fed IV while I was in a store earlier this morning.

    Steven
     
  15. BIGG SHOW

    BIGG SHOW Familiar Face

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    Thanks Sir
    I would have to agree with you. Without having seen either the Stylemaster or the Fed in person, from pics I’ve seen online the Stylemaster looks more casual.

    Cheers
     

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