Just remembered/realized that I have two more Carhartts hanging on pegs in the garage. I have used these as strictly work coats. One is a tan jacket like the pic at the top of this thread. The other one is a tan longer chore coat. Both must be med tall as they fit me perfectly. I think I bought all three at a Farm & Fleet or similar store. Never had any try on Carhartts fitting with overly long sleeves and super short body length.