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This is an essential tool for reshaping a hat brim

Rmccamey

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We are simply asking that you find another inexpensive hat of a style of more suitable for what want to do (a cheap fedora perhaps) rather than waste a lot of time and effort taking the curl out of a hat specifically designed and constructed to have the brim curl. We are vintage enthusiasts for the most part and, while you are not working with a vintage hat, it concerns us that you want to basically destroy a hat to get something that you could get much easier by starting with a hat that already has a mostly flat brim. Please consider our recommendations. We want you to be successful and we are trying to help by pointing you in a better direction from which you can start.
 

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okay thanks all for your help i see that nobody got what i need but its fine thanks anyway

If you have some reference for this style of hat where the brim is folded over onto itself, I would be very interested in seeing it. The fact that I have never seen such a hat certainly does not mean it does not exist. But that said, I think you're looking for a style of hat that does not really exist.

You've been already been given links for a hydraulic brim press, a flat brim flange, and a brim shackle. These tools should actually be sufficient to fold over the edge, should you so please.
 
All I can say is .... "whut"?

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humanshoes

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Pardon me for violating the Ebay active listing etiquette. I could be wrong, but I believe this is the hat in question. Of recent manufacture in a wool blend, the Sevilla hat by Fernandez and Roche. It appears that it is neither a curled brim nor a conventional bound brim, but rather a sort of homburg style binding that's folded over and pressed flat, but not stitched down as an overwelted brim would be. If the brim fold is tacked down, it's almost certainly done with a blind stitch that is not visible on the finished product. A steam iron, a damp pressing cloth, and a clean hard surface should do the trick nicely. Unless, of course, one is planning to do hundreds, then bring on the machinery.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-y-Roche-Sevilla-Wide-Brim-Hat-BLACK-ON-BLACK-TRIM-Sz-56-US-7-UK-6-7-8/254478394343?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D4843a1f8e08e4dc280f1ebee7545bc09%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D113921150438%26itm%3D254478394343%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
 
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abe ny

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yes this what I am talking about those kinds of hat customers asking me to repair it and pressing it for them

Pardon me for violating the Ebay active listing etiquette. I could be wrong, but I believe this is the hat in question. Of recent manufacture , the Sevilla hat by Fernandez and Roche. It appears that it is neither a curled brim nor a conventional bound brim, but rather a sort of homburg style bound brim that's folded over, pressed flat, but not stitched down as an overwelted brim would be. If the brim fold is tacked down, it's almost certainly done with a blind stitch that is not visible on the finished product. A steam iron, a pressing cloth, and a clean hard surface should do the trick nicely. Unless, of course, one is planning to do hundreds, then bring on the machinery.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-y-Roche-Sevilla-Wide-Brim-Hat-BLACK-ON-BLACK-TRIM-Sz-56-US-7-UK-6-7-8/254478394343?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D4843a1f8e08e4dc280f1ebee7545bc09%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D113921150438%26itm%3D254478394343%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
 

abe ny

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Pardon me for violating the Ebay active listing etiquette. I could be wrong, but I believe this is the hat in question. Of recent manufacture in a wool blend, the Sevilla hat by Fernandez and Roche. It appears that it is neither a curled brim nor a conventional bound brim, but rather a sort of homburg style bound brim that's folded over and pressed flat, but not stitched down as an overwelted brim would be. If the brim fold is tacked down, it's almost certainly done with a blind stitch that is not visible on the finished product. A steam iron, a damp pressing cloth, and a clean hard surface should do the trick nicely. Unless, of course, one is planning to do hundreds, then bring on the machinery.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-y-Roche-Sevilla-Wide-Brim-Hat-BLACK-ON-BLACK-TRIM-Sz-56-US-7-UK-6-7-8/254478394343?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D4843a1f8e08e4dc280f1ebee7545bc09%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D113921150438%26itm%3D254478394343%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
any press to press the brim ?
 

humanshoes

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any press to press the brim ?
Are you just doing the one hat? If so, why not just use your steam iron and a damp pressing cloth on a hard surface such as marble or a wood hat board? Everyone here is trying to help you and have already offered good suggestions about brim pressing machinery.
 
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jlee562

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Pardon me for violating the Ebay active listing etiquette. I could be wrong, but I believe this is the hat in question. Of recent manufacture in a wool blend, the Sevilla hat by Fernandez and Roche. It appears that it is neither a curled brim nor a conventional bound brim, but rather a sort of homburg style binding that's folded over and pressed flat, but not stitched down as an overwelted brim would be. If the brim fold is tacked down, it's almost certainly done with a blind stitch that is not visible on the finished product. A steam iron, a damp pressing cloth, and a clean hard surface should do the trick nicely. Unless, of course, one is planning to do hundreds, then bring on the machinery.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-y-Roche-Sevilla-Wide-Brim-Hat-BLACK-ON-BLACK-TRIM-Sz-56-US-7-UK-6-7-8/254478394343?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D4843a1f8e08e4dc280f1ebee7545bc09%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D113921150438%26itm%3D254478394343%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

Thanks for straightening all of us out!
 

Hat and Rehat

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You could always make your own flat brim flange similar to this, https://hatterssupplyhouse.com/brim-flange-flat/. .... looks like it would be a pretty easy diy project. Put a flanging cloth over brim as you iron it flat and then put weight on it for about an hour as it cools after ironing, (unless you make your flange with a groove for a tie off cord to secure the flange cloth in place as it cools).
I've done this. I was flattening a stingy with a significant flange, particularly in the back. I cut an oval hole in a bamboo cutting board, put a hat stretcher in the hat as a band block, dropped the hat into the flat flange with a bucket as the flange stand, then ironed the underside of the brim with a lot of steam and a cloth. Meanwhile, I was heating a bag of powdered drywall compound in the oven, on low, a little over 200 degrees. I pulled it out of the oven, dropped it into a heavy gauge plastic trash bag (to keep the hat clean), then left it on the hat overnight, with a towel between the hat and bag.
It was an improvised way to do what a hatter does with his heated sandbagger. I used the drywall compound because it was handy. A bag of sand, mortar, or whatever, would have worked as well if it had weight and could be warmed.
That brim had not responded to top ironing very well, because the up curl was so significant in the back, but was completely flat the next morning.
 

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