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Edward

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I just got this Flat Head Double Rider and I'm torn on whether the shoulders are too broad for my body. Thoughts?

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Looks to me like it fits as designed.


Shoulders look great.

I think people on TFL need a reminder that, while shoulders can never be narrower than your shoulders, extended shoulders are an established part of both leather jacket making and tailoring.

I think tbh there's a tendency to overthink the fit, even over-fit it. IMO, that's never going to have the same results as the way these jackets looked when picked up OTR back in the day, and it's really just looking for trouble with often unrealistic expectations. That said, given what it now costs to buy a jacket made in the US/UK/EU/Japan by one of our preferred brands round these parts, it's no surprise we can obsess a bit over details.

That said, the one in the photo fits exactly the way they should. Brando in The Wild One wore 'em like they were meant to be back in the 40s / early 50s - tight over the waist, room on the chest.
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Frankly if I ever managed to look half as good as Brando did in a cross zip, I'd be cockahoop.
 

nathlee1992

Familiar Face
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Aero PHWM fit check
Pics first!

Hello everyone, second time poster here(newbie here).
Recently purchased a jacket from a gentleman @AerGuitar.
Thanks Mark! A true legend!

I’m very happy with how the leather looks and smells, pleasantly surprised that I could still smell the leather after 3 years of it being made, the condition of this jacket is also insane.
Of course that badalassi squeak everyone talks about, I love all of that.

Comfort wise, it’s as comfortable as it can be for a leather jacket. No complaint here.

My only concern is the extra fabric at the back, would be grateful if I can get some input from the legends on this forum.

I also have another jacket I purchased 2 months ago for reference. That jacket is slightly roomier but it doesn’t have that back thing I mentioned.
Moto horsehide


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MrProper

I'll Lock Up
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5,140
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Aero PHWM fit check
Pics first!

Hello everyone, second time poster here(newbie here).
Recently purchased a jacket from a gentleman @AerGuitar.
Thanks Mark! A true legend!

I’m very happy with how the leather looks and smells, pleasantly surprised that I could still smell the leather after 3 years of it being made, the condition of this jacket is also insane.
Of course that badalassi squeak everyone talks about, I love all of that.

Comfort wise, it’s as comfortable as it can be for a leather jacket. No complaint here.

My only concern is the extra fabric at the back, would be grateful if I can get some input from the legends on this forum.

I also have another jacket I purchased 2 months ago for reference. That jacket is slightly roomier but it doesn’t have that back thing I mentioned.
Moto horsehide


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You can see that in many PHWMs. If the back is even slightly too long and tight at the same time, then it sits up and bunches up. I think a PHWM should be worn rather short, like a trucker jacket, for example. Have you tightened the side adjusters? If so, try loosening them and see if the jacket then falls differently.
In the other photos you can see a bulge at the back of both jackets. It is more pronounced on the PHWM than on the other.
I would wait and see if it disappears once it has been broken in. If not, you can always go to a leather cutter.
 

Bennarion

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Aero PHWM fit check
Pics first!

Hello everyone, second time poster here(newbie here).
Recently purchased a jacket from a gentleman @AerGuitar.
Thanks Mark! A true legend!

I’m very happy with how the leather looks and smells, pleasantly surprised that I could still smell the leather after 3 years of it being made, the condition of this jacket is also insane.
Of course that badalassi squeak everyone talks about, I love all of that.

Comfort wise, it’s as comfortable as it can be for a leather jacket. No complaint here.

My only concern is the extra fabric at the back, would be grateful if I can get some input from the legends on this forum.

I also have another jacket I purchased 2 months ago for reference. That jacket is slightly roomier but it doesn’t have that back thing I mentioned.
Moto horsehide


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I think it's not a problem. Overall, the jacket fits very well.
 

AerGuitar

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I agree, I think it looks like a good fit! You may try to loosen the buckles like Mr Proper suggested, to see if that helps any.
 

Canuck Panda

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5,010
Aero PHWM fit check
Pics first!

Hello everyone, second time poster here(newbie here).
Recently purchased a jacket from a gentleman @AerGuitar.
Thanks Mark! A true legend!

I’m very happy with how the leather looks and smells, pleasantly surprised that I could still smell the leather after 3 years of it being made, the condition of this jacket is also insane.
Of course that badalassi squeak everyone talks about, I love all of that.

Comfort wise, it’s as comfortable as it can be for a leather jacket. No complaint here.

My only concern is the extra fabric at the back, would be grateful if I can get some input from the legends on this forum.

I also have another jacket I purchased 2 months ago for reference. That jacket is slightly roomier but it doesn’t have that back thing I mentioned.
Moto horsehide


View attachment 679513
This jacket actually fits you very well. Congrats.
 

bigmanbigtruck

Practically Family
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Aero PHWM fit check
Pics first!

Hello everyone, second time poster here(newbie here).
Recently purchased a jacket from a gentleman @AerGuitar.
Thanks Mark! A true legend!

I’m very happy with how the leather looks and smells, pleasantly surprised that I could still smell the leather after 3 years of it being made, the condition of this jacket is also insane.
Of course that badalassi squeak everyone talks about, I love all of that.

Comfort wise, it’s as comfortable as it can be for a leather jacket. No complaint here.

My only concern is the extra fabric at the back, would be grateful if I can get some input from the legends on this forum.

I also have another jacket I purchased 2 months ago for reference. That jacket is slightly roomier but it doesn’t have that back thing I mentioned.
Moto horsehide


View attachment 679513
To me it fits well. And the main reason like mentioned earlier, is it cannot drop all the way down from behind. Only way to achieve that is to widen the hem which just may not look as good.

On the other hand, your Moto HH jacket has some flaring out at the bottom which allows it to drop all the way down and doesn't have that issue.

I shouldn't even call it an issue - it is a non-issue to me. You're gonna eventually forget about it as you wear the jacket more and trust me, nobody's gonna care about the rippling at the back more than you.
 

nathlee1992

Familiar Face
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To me it fits well. And the main reason like mentioned earlier, is it cannot drop all the way down from behind. Only way to achieve that is to widen the hem which just may not look as good.

On the other hand, your Moto HH jacket has some flaring out at the bottom which allows it to drop all the way down and doesn't have that issue.

I shouldn't even call it an issue - it is a non-issue to me. You're gonna eventually forget about it as you wear the jacket more and trust me, nobody's gonna care about the rippling at the back more than you.
Thanks for your feedback! I’m definitely over analysing this, after seeing so many perfect fit jackets by Mr proper hahaha
 

Mplouis54

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A little too short for my taste. One inch would have been enough for me. But if you like it (and that's the main thing), grea
Sorry in my haste to upload and show off the collar I could’ve took a better angle. Here’s another someone else took of me. When I went to a tailor, he told me I should take off 2.5-3 inches, so I went with the conservative 2.5, even though I originally asked for 2 just to be safe. I also uploaded the original length of the sleeve.
 

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MrProper

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Sorry in my haste to upload and show off the collar I could’ve took a better angle. Here’s another someone else took of me. When I went to a tailor, he told me I should take off 2.5-3 inches, so I went with the conservative 2.5, even though I originally asked for 2 just to be safe. I also uploaded the original length of the sleeve.
Was this a typical men's tailor or a leather tailor? Because if the former, then he probably had sport jackets in mind. The sleeves are shorter there.
 

Mplouis54

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Was this a typical men's tailor or a leather tailor? Because if the former, then he probably had sport jackets in mind. The sleeves are shorter there.
TBH I didn't ask. So I asked about an inch more than I should have? If I ever want to fix this in the future, can I, or its pretty much set like this going forward.
 

MrProper

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That's just my personal view. It is neither right nor wrong. You have to like it and if it's good for you, fine. If you feel that it's a bit short, then I would shorten the next jacket by just 1 inch. But the jacket is perfectly wearable and some people don't want the sleeves any longer.
I wouldn't have written anything if it hadn't been posted in the ‘Fit Check Thread’ ;-)
 

Peacoat

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Question about fit size with Schott 594

I got this jacket over the holidays, and I made the mistake of getting a jacket while getting in shape. When I bought the large, I was about 15 lbs heavier and I’m beginning to think I should’ve got a medium. The first jacket is the Schott 594 and the second is an Aero Jacket in 42. However I do think these bombers styles are built to be baggier for layering?
The Schott looks to be a little large, but I think the Aero is a good fit.
 

Herrvallmo

One Too Many
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Ordered this one a size larger inorder to wear a sweater or hoody under it. View attachment 680873
In my eyes the jacket fits you great! with A2's they look best when they are on the roomier side imo(and without any action back or gussets you need some extra leather to be able to move around in the jacket) :)

Must say you look really cool in that jaclet @NABodie, as cool as these gents :D
Cheers!
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