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The Stetsonian Institution

Discussion in 'Hats' started by jimmy the lid, May 28, 2009.

  1. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    This Royal DeLuxe Stetsonian arrived today. It is in absolutely pristine condition. The felt is a rich shade of chocolate brown, with a matching edge binding -- complemented by a dark brown ribbon. The lid is 5 1/2" open crown, and the brim is 2 1/2" wide. The oil silk liner protector is still intact.

    From a style standpoint, this lid is indistinguishable from a Whippet. Since, by definition, a Whippet was an entry-level Royal Stetson, I wonder whether the Stetsonian was essentially offered as an upgrade to the Whippet. [huh]

    While the edge binding is 3/8" (like that on the Whippet), it is narrower on the underside of the brim, with a row of stitching (see photo below). The tag indicates a price of $12.50. I would guesstimate this lid to date to c. 1950 or thereabouts.

    As I went to crease this lid, it whispered to me that it didn't want to be a teardrop. I followed where it led -- and wound up with a "diamond and cross" (at least, that's what I call this crease). It really feels right on this one.

    The Stetsonian went through some changes over the years, and I know there are at least two or three here on the Lounge (Harp Player Gene has a beauty). Hopefully, this thread can be a repository for any Stetsonians out there, along with related info. :)

    Here's the lid:

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    Cheers,
    JtL
     
  2. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    Thanks to Lefty for previously compiling these Stetsonian ads from over the years.

    1923
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    1948 (Stetsonian and Casual)
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    1951 -- Gotta love the color "Peacock"! Note that, on this one, the edge binding is wider on the underside of the brim, with a narrower binding and row of stitching on top -- the exact opposite of the scheme on my lid...
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    1961 :eek:
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    Cheers,
    JtL
     
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  3. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Sweet lid!

    Not a teardrop?! What have you done with Jimmy?

    Actually, looks great JTL. Hopefully more will come out of the closets.

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  4. RBH

    RBH Bartender

    Out of all the creases you do [and I have seen a few of them in person] that DC [diamond/cross] is the best ....bar none!!!! :eusa_clap
     
  5. CRH

    CRH Call Me a Cab

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    :eek:

    What's this? The Maestro makes a lumpy crease? - and a damn nice one too :eusa_clap! What a beauty, that Stetsonian, and thanks for the history lesson, JTL.
     
  6. HarpPlayerGene

    HarpPlayerGene I'll Lock Up

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    Oooo-la-la, that is a gorgeous hat.

    And you're branching out into new realms of beautiful crease work. I liiiike it.
     
  7. HarpPlayerGene

    HarpPlayerGene I'll Lock Up

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    I'll post pics of mine when Photobucket is behaving better.


    I dunno buddy; when I compare my Stets' to my Whippets the Stetsonian is bigger in every way. Binding is wider, crown is taller and brim is bigger. That's why I've never thought of mine as an ideal wearer for me. Because of its scale and my skinniness it kind of wears me, y'know?

    EDIT/ADDT'N: Y'know, my Stetsonian is much more of a match in its proportions to my Knox Tom & Jerry than anything else in my collection.
     
  8. DanielJones

    DanielJones I'll Lock Up

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    Wow! Stunning specimen of a hat. I always love to see such pristine lids like that. It's like getting a brand new custom to be proud of.
    Yes, the hat will always let you know what it wants to look like & it can't be persuaded otherwise. Good job! :eusa_clap

    Cheers!

    Dan
     
  9. HarpPlayerGene

    HarpPlayerGene I'll Lock Up

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    Here's mine:

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  10. billyspew

    billyspew One Too Many

    That's a beauty JtL

    Additional advert I don't think you had from 1922
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  11. Mr. Paladin

    Mr. Paladin My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Gene-Jimmy, those are beautiful specimens! They look like they are in immaculate condition and are real classics. Jimmy, that is a great crease on yours; you are the Chief for sure!
     
  12. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    Wow -- thanks, Rusty! :) Thanks for the many nice comments, gents -- as always, much appreciated!


    Thanks, Dan. I completely agree with you -- if you are able to find a vintage lid in this kind of condition, it really is like getting a brand new hat. As I've said before, it's like getting in a time machine, walking into a hat store, and magically emerging with a "new" vintage lid! :) Oh, and good to see you posting again! ;)

    Cheers,
    JtL
     
  13. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    Gene -- that Stetsonian is just gorgeous. What a fantastic lid!

    I've got more to say, but gotta run. More later...;)

    Cheers,
    JtL
     
  14. carouselvic

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    Was this what you had in mind? TLH

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  15. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    Now, we're talkin'! That is fantastic.

    Cheers,
    JtL
     
  16. carouselvic

    carouselvic My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    From the US patent office

    The Stetsonian

    First used in commerce April 1917

    Filling date July 24, 1923

    Regestered March 18 1924

    Serial # 71183637

    Reg#0181329
     
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  18. jimmy the lid

    jimmy the lid I'll Lock Up

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    The dog whisperer? :D

    Cheers,
    JtL
     
  19. FurFeltFedora

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    JtL that is an amazing hat. Pristine condition and beautifully creased. Congrats on it. Now why can't hats like that still go for $12.50? It's even my size :)
     
  20. feltfan

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    Another Brown Royal Deluxe

    The felt on this hat is everything I'd want from a dress felt.
    Crisp, but not stiff, thin and dense. Nice rich brown.
    Somehow I still haven't warmed to this hat. I think the
    problem is the way the crown is formed. I should reform
    it to make it appear a bit taller. Note that the brim binding
    is the reverse of JtL's (and presumably HPG's).

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    Excellent condition.

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