1950s Dobbs Homburg Black with Black Cherry Trim 5 3/8 crown with center dent (about 6 open) 2 inch black cherry grosgrain ribbon 2 inch brim to d'orsay with 9/16 binding Latest arrival 1950s Dobbs Homburg with beautiful black cherry ribbon and binding. The hat arrived in an ample sized box however the seller protectively wrapped the hat in a bag tight enough to leave the brim a bit boxy. Kinda started rounding out over night. The generous crown is about 6 inches open. It does not currently hold any side dents.. in fact it almost seems to prefer open over a center dent. I imagine some steam would allow it to retain various shaping. It arrived in time to accompany my beautiful wife and I yesterday for our 14th anniversary dinner.