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Aloysius · Apr 18, 2024

The numbers do not translate to production order.

MrProper · Apr 18, 2024

Aloysius said:
The numbers do not translate to production order.

That was still the case for me.
I had order #1 and was the first to get the jacket. LOL

I think it's understandable that the order numbers don't follow each other exactly. There are too many individual agreements and clarifications involved. But I think they should at least not run infinitely apart.

mvilla · Apr 18, 2024

Aloysius said:
The numbers do not translate to production order.

They do

Aloysius · Apr 18, 2024

mvilla said:
They do

No we went over this about a year ago. I think now they might align more but especially when Greg was still doing custom orders, they didn’t quite align.

mvilla · Apr 18, 2024

mvilla said:
2/22 as 22 of February, right? (I mean, probably it is not February of 2022, but it doesn't hurt to ask haha)

I placed mine Feb. 1st... So I guess mine is due soon.

I wonder if it is because of leather choice... Which leather you're going for?

Aloysius said:
No we went over this about a year ago. I think now they might align more but especially when Greg was still doing custom orders, they didn’t quite align.

Check out my reply I quoted here, @Wandering Nomad placed his order 1 day after I did.

jacketjunkie · Apr 19, 2024

Order number means order number, not production number. Productions depends on availability of materials etc, ofcourse he would finish a later order if he doesnt have the necessary hardware and leather to finish the previous one.

mvilla · Apr 19, 2024

jacketjunkie said:
Order number means order number, not production number. Productions depends on availability of materials etc, ofcourse he would finish a later order if he doesnt have the necessary hardware and leather to finish the previous one.

He does have the leather, and I provided the zips and lining material. So... What's your point?

jacketjunkie · Apr 19, 2024

mvilla said:
He does have the leather, and I provided the zips and lining material. So... What's your point?

My point is and still stands that order number does not equal order of production and that production order is subject to other circumstances. I‘m not even saying he rightfully finished that other order before yours because I don‘t have insight in his production process but neither do you. If you are unhappy with his business conduct or accuse him of favoring other customers over you, I suggest you call him?

mvilla · Apr 19, 2024

jacketjunkie said:
My point is and still stands that order number does not equal order of production and that production order is subject to other circumstances. I‘m not even saying he rightfully finished that other order before yours because I don‘t have insight in his production process but neither do you. If you are unhappy with his business conduct or accuse him of favoring other customers over you, I suggest you call him?

Already emailed in the past, to what he replied he passed a few "simpler" orders ahead of mine, so once again, what is your point?

jacketjunkie · Apr 20, 2024

mvilla said:
Already emailed in the past, to what he replied he passed a few "simpler" orders ahead of mine, so once again, what is your point?

My point still stands, I‘m sorry you are so emotionally aggrevated about this all, I hope you get your jacket soon and can still enjoy it.

mvilla · Saturday at 11:11 AM

Well, after 16 months, the jacket finally arrived. And I'll have to say, it is rather disappointing. I'm not saying it is a bad jacket, because it certainly is not. It's just not the custom jacket I ordered.

First the photos:

Cheech · Saturday at 11:20 AM

mvilla said:
Well, after 16 months, the jacket finally arrived. And I'll have to say, it is rather disappointing. I'm not alsaying it is a bad jacket, because it certainly is not. It's just not the custom jacket I ordered.

Sorry to hear that you’re disappointed. Can you say more about why the jacket didn’t meet your expectations?

mvilla · Saturday at 11:24 AM

Now, to the issues. First thing, obviously, is the time. I was initially quoted 9 to 10 months when I first placed my order, February 1st of 2023. As I mentioned previously, it's been 16 months. I have the feeling these custom jackets were all pushed back so Field Leathers could take their new projects and collabs, which is just poor time management. Besides, as I already complained previously, my jacket was pushed back in favour of "easier to make" jackets. Well, this is a fairly plain half belt, as you all can see. Another problem is the lack of communication. Several times I was ghosted and my questions weren't answered. I think this is somewhat common practice among this medium. I also thought I was buying a full custom jacket, whilst in fact most of the things I asked they "weren't happy to make" and "reserved the right to refuse". Even simple things, such as a cinch on the cuff or decorative stitching. Lastly, and this is where I honestly just got full disappointed, I bought Crown zips to be used on this jacket. I posted around here about them already, and I've been talking about these for almost a year now with them. To my surprise, Greg sent me a video with the jacket 80% made already and a message "you will notice I didn't use your zips, but I was already stressed out with time and had to go with something I knew, sorry". I will say exactly what I told him, this is rather frustrating, as I've been talking about these zips for long enough, and he already worked with them before. I understand there are decisions that are up to the artisan in this type of job, however using "time" as an excuse is just poor form, the jacket is already at least 6 months late, and I waited patiently.

Now, nitpicking, the finishing was left to be desired in some parts as well, in my opinion, such as on the cuffs (I expected not to see exposed inner leather as it is) and the end of stitching right on top of the front zip

My LL for reference of what I mean about the cuff

This is the most I've ever spent on any piece of garment, and I have to say I was much more pleased with my used LL and Eastman, or my "custom" Aero.

mvilla · Saturday at 11:46 AM

And, just to keep things straight, I don't think Greg or Sam are bad people, quite the opposite, actually. They accommodated my request to make my mock jacket on a fabric I sent over, and even gave me leather scraps for a particular project. I'm just not happy with their business.

Bennarion · Saturday at 12:13 PM

mvilla said:
Now, to the issues. First thing, obviously, is the time. I was initially quoted 9 to 10 months when I first placed my order, February 1st of 2023. As I mentioned previously, it's been 16 months. I have the feeling these custom jackets were all pushed back so Field Leathers could take their new projects and collabs, which is just poor time management. Besides, as I already complained previously, my jacket was pushed back in favour of "easier to make" jackets. Well, this is a fairly plain half belt, as you all can see. Another problem is the lack of communication. Several times I was ghosted and my questions weren't answered. I think this is somewhat common practice among this medium. I also thought I was buying a full custom jacket, whilst in fact most of the things I asked they "weren't happy to make" and "reserved the right to refuse". Even simple things, such as a cinch on the cuff or decorative stitching. Lastly, and this is where I honestly just got full disappointed, I bought Crown zips to be used on this jacket. I posted around here about them already, and I've been talking about these for almost a year now with them. To my surprise, Greg sent me a video with the jacket 80% made already and a message "you will notice I didn't use your zips, but I was already stressed out with time and had to go with something I knew, sorry". I will say exactly what I told him, this is rather frustrating, as I've been talking about these zips for long enough, and he already worked with them before. I understand there are decisions that are up to the artisan in this type of job, however using "time" as an excuse is just poor form, the jacket is already at least 6 months late, and I waited patiently.
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Now, nitpicking, the finishing was left to be desired in some parts as well, in my opinion, such as on the cuffs (I expected not to see exposed inner leather as it is) and the end of stitching right on top of the front zip
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My LL for reference of what I mean about the cuff
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This is the most I've ever spent on any piece of garment, and I have to say I was much more pleased with my used LL and Eastman, or my "custom" Aero.

I am very surprised. I'm sorry to hear that.

Bennarion · Saturday at 12:16 PM

mvilla said:
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How could such a thing be done? Have you talked to Greg about this?

mvilla · Saturday at 12:17 PM

Bennarion said:
How could such a thing be done? Have you talked to Greg about this?

Just received, so no... Didn't have the chance yet. But now I'm just hopeless, in a sense... I'm just accepting that it is what it is

Cheech · Saturday at 12:21 PM

@mvilla, I can see why you're disappointed. I'd expect better of Fields, too. We've seen small jacket makers and clothiers fall behind on production many times as they scale up, but, at the very least, that should not impact the quality of the product.

mvilla · Saturday at 12:31 PM

Cheech said:
@mvilla, I can see why you're disappointed. I'd expect better of Fields, too. We've seen small jacket makers and clothiers fall behind on production many times as they scale up, but, at the very least, that should not impact the quality of the product.

Yes, I agree. That is why I wasn't too upset about the wait, I started to get bothered when I realised they were pushing back mine for lousy reasoning. Nos, seeing the end result, I just feel the "couldn't be arsed" with my jacket with "so much going on"

jacketjunkie · Saturday at 12:35 PM

mvilla said:
Now, to the issues. First thing, obviously, is the time. I was initially quoted 9 to 10 months when I first placed my order, February 1st of 2023. As I mentioned previously, it's been 16 months. I have the feeling these custom jackets were all pushed back so Field Leathers could take their new projects and collabs, which is just poor time management. Besides, as I already complained previously, my jacket was pushed back in favour of "easier to make" jackets. Well, this is a fairly plain half belt, as you all can see. Another problem is the lack of communication. Several times I was ghosted and my questions weren't answered. I think this is somewhat common practice among this medium. I also thought I was buying a full custom jacket, whilst in fact most of the things I asked they "weren't happy to make" and "reserved the right to refuse". Even simple things, such as a cinch on the cuff or decorative stitching. Lastly, and this is where I honestly just got full disappointed, I bought Crown zips to be used on this jacket. I posted around here about them already, and I've been talking about these for almost a year now with them. To my surprise, Greg sent me a video with the jacket 80% made already and a message "you will notice I didn't use your zips, but I was already stressed out with time and had to go with something I knew, sorry". I will say exactly what I told him, this is rather frustrating, as I've been talking about these zips for long enough, and he already worked with them before. I understand there are decisions that are up to the artisan in this type of job, however using "time" as an excuse is just poor form, the jacket is already at least 6 months late, and I waited patiently.
View attachment 618107
View attachment 618108 View attachment 618109

Now, nitpicking, the finishing was left to be desired in some parts as well, in my opinion, such as on the cuffs (I expected not to see exposed inner leather as it is) and the end of stitching right on top of the front zip
View attachment 618113

View attachment 618111

My LL for reference of what I mean about the cuff
View attachment 618112

This is the most I've ever spent on any piece of garment, and I have to say I was much more pleased with my used LL and Eastman, or my "custom" Aero.

These cuffs are an absolute joke, you wouldnt see this on a 200 dollar mall jacket. Why on earth would anyone sew them ontop of the lining and expose the leather instead of the other way around? Straight up trolling if you ask me. Same for the excuse of not using your zippers. Bro, it‘s a zipper, it has a zipper tape same as anyone, which part of sewing this instead of any other one stressed him out exactly? Sorry mate, I truly wished this jacket be perfect after that long wait and accumulated frustration. I‘d close this chapter by sending the jacket back and asking for a refund, too much money to just take the L imho.

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