If it helps at all in your decision, Fermenter, I've got a good pic of my Akubra Cattleman in Sand. I was trying out my new GoPro in preparation for some cinematic SCUBA. This was taken in Cabo San Lucas, and I had to alter the photo a bit so it wasn't washed out by the extreme sunlight and light surroundings. I think this pic best represents the color and dimensions of the hat in sunlit conditions. The Territory has the same crown shape as the Cattleman, but has a slightly wider brim, no bound edge, and a leather hatband rather than a ribbon. The crown of the Cattleman/Territory is very slightly tapered, but it's hard to tell. The taper of the Riverina crown is going to be a bit more pronounced, but some are into that look. EDIT: Oops, sorry. I didn't originally see that you went ahead and purchased both. Can't wait to see the pics!