Five Star Leather Jackets

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead, Sep 23, 2020.

  1. MrProper

    MrProper One Too Many

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    Thank you for your opinions. I understand that suede as lining is a stupid idea. I almost thought to myself ;)
    I'll ask shawn what is the thickest suede he has and then think about it. maybe with quilted lining.
     
  2. Jin431

    Jin431 One Too Many

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    Maybe/hopefully he will offer rough out horse/goat/cow in the future, I'll be very interested with that
     
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  3. CRP

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    Fivestar Cafe Racer - I ordered a modified version of the Cafe Racer Fivestar had on their website in black premium goat. The original was based on the buco j100 and was ordered by another member. I had the upper zip pockets eliminated and added lower zip pockets as well as an extra internal pocket for functional preference. The zippers are YKK #10, all hardware is dark gunmetal, and lining is rayon. I used the measurement method ton312 and MrProper outlined and sent them to Shawn for his recommendation on a size to accommodate a light sweater underneath. Since I didn't have another jacket base my measurements on, I went with Shawn's suggestions for a 6 inch spread between body and jacket measurements. Attached pictures are the result.
     

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  4. CRP

    CRP New in Town

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    I love the jacket leather, hardware, and stitching and overall am very pleased. For my next jacket, I would definitely stick with the 6 inch spread for the chest measurement and maybe add a 1/2 inch (especially in premium 1.2-1.4 goat). For the waist, I would definitely go down to a 4 inch spread between body and jacket measurement. I would also have the sleeves attached STRAIGHT AND INLINE with the shoulder line (see MrProper link to JimO's comments: https://www.vintageleatherjackets.org/threads/fivestar-leather-a2-jacket.21625/page-44#post-289143).
    I talked to Shawn Ali about sending the jacket back and he was willing to do it, but he said it was an easy fix if I could find someone locally. The leather is thick, soft, but tough. The local tailor tried to put a needle through by the seam and couldn't (they promised to use existing holes after taking material out of the back). I have send it out and we'll see how it goes. Attached are pictures of how much extra material is in the waist. Fivestar CR Front (Waist In).JPG Fivestar CR Back (Waist In).JPG
     
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  5. MrProper

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    Nice Jacket. I didn't think black goat would work so well.
    Of course it's always a question of personal preferences, but I would prefer a tighter fit for a CR. On the hip I would only add 3" and at p2p max 4" and I would tapered the sleeves.
     
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  6. TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead

    TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead Practically Family

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    most of us haven't gotten our first jacket perfect, so you're in good company.

    It's definitely a preference thing, but 6 inches is way too big IMO. I think 3-4 chest, and like 1.5-2.5 body. Bottom hem I go pretty skinny, like 1. But I live in Los Angeles, so I'm not layering under jacket, pretty much can wear with Tshirt or thin long sleeve/hoodie.

    The build looks good though. I was working on a very elaborate mock up of a J100 but put it aside. Just decided to do it top of the line with Field Leathers and call it a day. There's a couple frankenstein sort of builds in the military genre I'm thinking about though for fun jackets, so I'd go back to 5 Star for those. But now having access to several more jackets, I think the leather is fine, but it's not wow factor. Not expecting magic for $300 so it's not like I'm disappointed, you just need to understand what you're getting. I think the create your own model is well worth the money for sure. And it's just damn fun. But I wouldn't be surprised to see some disappointed threads coming up. You really need to understand the measurements. Luckily a lot of people have paved the road, so if you put the time into reading this thread and a few others, you'll definitely increase the odds in your favor.
     
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  7. CRP

    CRP New in Town

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    I hear ya bro. Fivestar for me is the perfect place to experiment with my fit without costing me a fortune in headache and time. Pretty happy with this first attempt and can hopefully dial in the next one. I just love getting the exact thing I want to my measurements (and fit is everything). Granted horsehide or some of the other leathers may be more exciting, but nothing seems to be as comfortable or durable as goat. Hopefully, I can get the shoulder peaks smoothed out as well and then all will be perfect in the world. Its scratching my itch for now! :)
     
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  8. ton312

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    I think that looks pretty damn good!! Little extra room in the body but overall solid!!
     
  9. Bahabp100

    Bahabp100 One of the Regulars

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    My FiveStar has suede lining on the cuffs and collars only. For contrast . Using the “golden” color. I guess just cause I could I did.
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  10. Hobbes1

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    I also want a cafe racer from Five-star. I'm struggling with measurements though. My previous jacket from them fits tighter unless I have only light T-shirt or wool shirt underneath. I would like to be able to layer a t-shirt and sweater under the CR without it being too baggy overall.
    Are you saying you got your body measurements plus 6 inches in the chest and waist? I feel like your jacket looks good but would be too roomy of a fit for my liking. Could you please clarify how Shawn applied the 6 inch addition? Thanks!
     
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  11. Hobbes1

    Hobbes1 One of the Regulars

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    When you talk about adding, do you mean your body measurement for each area plus 3-4"....so if my chest is 45", plus 4" gives 49" divided by 2, thus ask for a pit to pit of 24.5"?
     
  12. TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead

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    Yep, exactly. On waist and bottom hem, you do half since you usually give 1 side. So if you measure a 40 hip (bottom hem), that's 20 + .5 for me to get a snug fit (equals 41 total measurement)
     
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  13. TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead

    TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead Practically Family

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    Where ever it fits tighter, add a little to that measurement. Just keep in mind how the math works. So lets say you want an extra inch in the chest to fit a sweater, you're adding .5 to ptp measurement.
     
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  14. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    The sample pack arrived from @Will Zach today... I think that the Seal Goat has the best color, but the Distressed Buffalo has my favorite texture. I might need to do some experimenting before sending these to @Claybertrand....i have also found the epitome of a 40s half-belt to work out the numbers with!
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  15. CRP

    CRP New in Town

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    To clarify, I asked for a jacket I could wear with a light sweater underneath. Shawn at Fivestar suggested adding 6 to my body circumference measurement: chest 45"+6"=51", waist 38"/belly 39"/natural waist 38"=45". The chest ended up being snug with a sweater, but perfect with a t-shirt. The waist ended up way too large, so I'm having it reduced by another 2".
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  16. CRP

    CRP New in Town

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    Waist with additional 6" was too large and did not taper enough:
     

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  17. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    Even with 37” being my belly measurement, a 19.5” bottom hem fits great. So I’m like 2” bigger than actual measurement on a slim-fit jacket...6” is nuts!
     
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  18. CRP

    CRP New in Town

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    T-shirt only or with thin sweater? 2" is very trim. I'm in Michigan, so it gets a little chilly every now and then. SoCal probably not so much. I'm trimming my jacket going down to 4" spread in the waist, but I'm not brave enough to try a 2" spread like some of you veteran leather jacket aficionados. At least not yet!
     
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  19. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    In time ;)...
    I can wear mine with a sweatshirt or light sweater, but Michigan- oof. Maybe some sort of insulating vest would work.
     
  20. JustinW

    JustinW Practically Family

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    I’m still tempted to order a CR from them ...
     
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