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StudyTheCosmos

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If the sweat band is crumbling then it will need to be replaced now. If you have a hat maker/shop in your area you can get it replaced for $50 - $75. Do you like the hat enough to invest $75 more? If you have to mail the hat for repair you are faced with another $50 for postage there and back.
Unfortunately, I haven't found anything in my area that's very easily accessible, but I have been looking into mailing it for repair! If you have any recommendations (I am located in eastern Kentucky), I'd appreciate it!
 

StudyTheCosmos

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I don’t have any info for you, but would like to see the hat regardless! :cool:
Happy to oblige! Here you go:
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Unfortunately, I haven't found anything in my area that's very easily accessible, but I have been looking into mailing it for repair! If you have any recommendations (I am located in eastern Kentucky), I'd appreciate it!
There are 3 or 4 hat makers in Lex that might be able to help. Google will pull up their names. There is Busted Hats here in the Lounge.
 

Edward

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Can anyone school me on the Australian brand "Statesman"? I've seen a few of these on eBay, both new and older, and tracked their website https://www.statesmanhats.com.au. They have a range of Aussie style hats (in both furfelt and wool), some of which look remarkable similar to Akubra models. Their Countryman is a dead ringer for a Cattleman, for example. Curious as I've seen some very good deals on the brand on eBay, as well as some that turn up at nice prices used. Worth looking into?

(The background to this is I have half an eye out for a Cattleman in a grey or a black. The UK supplier for Akubra is about the same price as ordering one from an Australian dealer one I pay hipping and import, but while the Cattleman is one of the small range of models they do, they only carry their Akubras in a very limited range of earthtones. I'm very much an Akubra fan - I have more of those than any brand currently in production, but I'm also open to something else if it's a significant saving presenting itself.)
 

Jedi Leba

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I see a lot of talk about hat material vs performance. Wool/rabbit/beaver, rain/sun/sweat. My question is, How much/often are you really out in the rain, that rain performance is a concern?

I'm pretty much never in the rain. At most it's running between the house front door and the car. I just can't really imagine getting any hat wet enough to matter very much.
 
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I see a lot of talk about hat material vs performance. Wool/rabbit/beaver, rain/sun/sweat. My question is, How much/often are you really out in the rain, that rain performance is a concern?

I'm pretty much never in the rain. At most it's running between the house front door and the car. I just can't really imagine getting any hat wet enough to matter very much.
Wool is a great fibre....for knitting sweaters, watch caps, scarves etc.....not so great for hats. Wool will not hold its shape over time. Water will quicken that process. Fur felt, rabbit, beaver, nutria produces a much tighter felt and if made properly will hold shape over a long period of time. Yes, even fur may misshapen if thoroughly wetted and not dried properly but it is easily steamed back into shape even by the novice. Beaver is the best as in most durable, as beaver fur has natural barbs to each fibre and produces somewhat of a natural velcro effect when felted. Wool felt hats are cheaper to buy but they look cheap as well
 

wsmontana

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I see a lot of talk about hat material vs performance. Wool/rabbit/beaver, rain/sun/sweat. My question is, How much/often are you really out in the rain, that rain performance is a concern?
Rain is one consideration. I definitely choose a different hat based on the use case. For example, on the river where bushwacking, sweat, rain, and the occasional dump in the river occurs, I almost exclusively wear an Akubra. They hold up well and I’m not too upset when one gets lost (or no longer fits due to shrinkage). A nice vintage beaver Stetson would perform and look better than an Akubra but it would be very painful if lost :). A wool hat would not be a good choice here.
I'm pretty much never in the rain. At most it's running between the house front door and the car. I just can't really imagine getting any hat wet enough to matter very much.
For this use case, if you like the fit, shape, and look of the hat as is, a wool hat should serve you well imo. You will be limited in how you can reshape a wool hat but as long as you keep it from the elements (e.g., rain, sweat, dirt, etc.) and physical abuse (e.g., dog sat on it :)) you should be okay.
 
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Rain is one consideration. I definitely choose a different hat based on the use case. For example, on the river where bushwacking, sweat, rain, and the occasional dump in the river occurs, I almost exclusively wear an Akubra. They hold up well and I’m not too upset when one gets lost (or no longer fits due to shrinkage). A nice vintage beaver Stetson would perform and look better than an Akubra but it would be very painful if lost :). A wool hat would not be a good choice here.

For this use case, if you like the fit, shape, and look of the hat as is, a wool hat should serve you well imo. You will be limited in how you can reshape a wool hat but as long as you keep it from the elements (e.g., rain, sweat, dirt, etc.) and physical abuse (e.g., dog sat on it :)) you should be okay.
It has been a long while since I purchased an Akubra but I noticed last week the prices have greatly increased in the last few years. They are no longer as approachable a choice for the budget conscious.
 

wsmontana

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It has been a long while since I purchased an Akubra but I noticed last week the prices have greatly increased in the last few years. They are no longer as approachable a choice for the budget conscious.
Yes, I noticed that as well. I think the 2nd hand market is the way to go with Akubras. With patience it is possible to find an Akubra (e.g., Snowy River, Bushman, Campdraft) in excellent condition in my size that is cheaper (and much better on the river) than a new Stetson wool hat for example.
 

blewnote

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I bought a Garve electric hat stretcher knowing that I'd need to figure out the electrical for it, but didn't bargain on it not even working to stretch hats manually. It is missing whatever connects to the grooves on the screw that is turned to adjust sizing. I have a local machine shop that can fashion something to fix it but I was curious if anyone who has one of these would mind taking some pictures of the underside of the part that moves so I have a better idea of what to ask for.

The model looks like this one that sold here recently.

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And the place I'm looking for a picture of is shown here:


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I'm assuming there's something that attaches to those two cutouts on either side of the round part that is above the screw, but am curious if it's inside or on the outside. It's also missing the pointer that comes down to show what size you're at but I figured that would be easy for them to replicate as well. Thanks in advance!
 

Dan718

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I’ve been wearing a Federation IV all winter and it’s a great hat. Now with spring on the way I’m considering something a little lighter for summer.

I was considering a sorrel tan Fed IV and removing the lining, or possibly a campdraft in sand for the slightly wider brim.

I’m not really into straw, and I’m the last few months I’ve gone off leather hatbands so although I was considering a cattleman or tablelands, I think I’d prefer something a litttle less ‘cowboy.

I’d be interested to hear what people have to say on the matter. I’m mainly looking at Akubra but other brands might be worthwhile depending on the exchange rate. Stetson’s are way too expensive to buy in Japan for my budget, or I’d be looking at an open road or stratoliner.
 

The Lost Cowboy

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I’ve been wearing a Federation IV all winter and it’s a great hat. Now with spring on the way I’m considering something a little lighter for summer.

I was considering a sorrel tan Fed IV and removing the lining, or possibly a campdraft in sand for the slightly wider brim.

I’m not really into straw, and I’m the last few months I’ve gone off leather hatbands so although I was considering a cattleman or tablelands, I think I’d prefer something a litttle less ‘cowboy.

I’d be interested to hear what people have to say on the matter. I’m mainly looking at Akubra but other brands might be worthwhile depending on the exchange rate. Stetson’s are way too expensive to buy in Japan for my budget, or I’d be looking at an open road or stratoliner.

What Fed IV comes in "sorrel tan"? Do you mean "tawny fawn"?

I wore a tawny fawn Fed IV for a few years in SE Asia. It worked well. I don't recommend the heritage felt for hotter months - I find the Fed IV heritage felt to be too dense no matter what the color. But the tawny fawn only comes in imperial felt and that worked for me, with or without the liner.
 

Dan718

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What Fed IV comes in "sorrel tan"? Do you mean "tawny fawn"?

I wore a tawny fawn Fed IV for a few years in SE Asia. It worked well. I don't recommend the heritage felt for hotter months - I find the Fed IV heritage felt to be too dense no matter what the color. But the tawny fawn only comes in imperial felt and that worked for me, with or without the liner.
Sorry, I meant tawny fawn. If it worked well in SE Asia then Japan should be fine. Did you keep the liner in or remove it?
 

The Lost Cowboy

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Sorry, I meant tawny fawn. If it worked well in SE Asia then Japan should be fine. Did you keep the liner in or remove it?
I actually kept the liner in and didn't have any issues. I did eventually remove the liner but I can't remember why. Didn't notice a change in comfort level.

In my town in Malaysia, where I spend most of my time, the temps are almost consistently 31 Celsius all year. Anything more than that became noticeably hot in the FED IV, but it only gets hotter in Melaka around March.
 

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