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Discussion in 'Hats' started by Lefty, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. Bill Hughes

    Bill Hughes One Too Many

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    I think most are found on eBay and Etsy. You can always watch the classifieds on this site.
     
  2. deadlyhandsome

    deadlyhandsome I'll Lock Up

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    Are you referring to open crown hats where you can shape the crease to your liking? Those are common. Stetson still makes a couple open crown hats and most any hatter can make one for you.

    Complete reblocking a hat requires removal of the sweatband and sewing it back in when done. You can partially reblock a hat but the block needs to be undersized so as to allow the block to pass over the restricted diameter. Very few people ever reblocked their own hats.


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  3. Attorneyatlaw

    Attorneyatlaw New in Town

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    Thanks a mint. Haven’t been able to find a hat maker with old Al Capone type hats. Growing up that’s all my dad and uncles worn. Thanks again will keep my eyes open.
     
  4. Attorneyatlaw

    Attorneyatlaw New in Town

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    Thank you for the uplift. I really would like to get “open crown” types. Been on this site learning from many guys around the world. I still have a few old wingtip foot joy shoes and Atkins. I talk to youngsters they never heard of Edwin Clapp and the like ha ha ha. I try to talk style to some of the young attorneys at my firm, they don’t know what real styling is. And these skinny suits look like the guy wearing one forgot his size. Jacket buttons pulling apart and these retired football players who have become announcers look really weird in their suits. Guess I’m just an old fashioned guy or just getting older. Long for the 30s-60s styles. Forgive me for venting ouch!
     
  5. Attorneyatlaw

    Attorneyatlaw New in Town

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    Mr. Hughes, you area man of style. I can’t even find button suspenders anymore. I’v got to get out more often. To all the responses, thanks a million.
     
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  6. Hard to see in 2D pics but Heather is fur using 2 or more different colors of fur felted together. It can be short or long nap. It's popular in some items of clothing such as sweaters. Just a couple of examples:

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    Long hair is generally thought of a fur felt of one color but a longer nap. Hard to see in this Borsalino:

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    Velour finished fur felt starts with caplines such as these. Likewise Velour is commonly used in clothing:

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    Using a dry hat sponge should not remove too much felt from your hat. It is just an artificial sponge with larger cells. It's not as course as medium sandpaper but it will remove much of the fuzz & lose nap you speak of. Speed is not necessary, just take your time so you control how much you are removing. Your hat will look better even if you can't achieve the velvety hand you want. It's best to have one hat sponge you use only on light colored hats & another for dark colored hats. When it comes time to rinse out a sponge use water only; no soap as it is hard to get all the soap residue out.

    I'll back away now. We're glad you're here & like fine hats.
     
  7. JTSwifty

    JTSwifty New in Town

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    Dear friends,
    Wondering if anyone has ever ordered anything from a UK-based company called Horizonsnfp.co.uk? They advertise the Akubra Bushman for $64.18 (48.61 British Pounds) (see: http://www.studiogroen.com/hat-akub...-p-1852:a8e2614c3aa4cfab7b638883eb72b17c.html ). It has been said that "if it looks too good to be true, it probably is." But just in case I can get a brand new Bushman for $100 off, I thought I would check with those in the know...
     
  8. Hat and Rehat

    Hat and Rehat One of the Regulars

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    Actual QUESTION.
    I know there's only one sewing machine that you can use to effectively sew in sweat bands with precision and ease (or a knock off from Taiwan). You don't really want me shopping for one though (unless you have one to sell), because I'll just bid up the price (economics 101), and you'll have to part with more lettuce down the road.
    While perusing craigslist I saw a very heavy duty Singer bar tack machine running both on air and electricity that seemed to have all of the correct geometry to do the hatter work, though I have no idea what sort of feed dogs are in a bar tack machine.
    Is this something I should look into, or a waste of time?
     
  9. Just Daniel

    Just Daniel A-List Customer

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    Question: has anyone heard of or bought a hat from the Mercury Hat Company?

    I googled and checked the site but no joy. Maybe someone has come across one before?

    All the best,
    Daniel
     
  10. belfastboy

    belfastboy Call Me a Cab

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    Different hatters use different names for their finishes. Many of the custom hatters post pics and blurbs that explain their offerings. A good custom hatter will take the time to discuss your wants so they are clear going in what you want.
     
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  11. belfastboy

    belfastboy Call Me a Cab

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    I wekcome some input. I have a beaver /mink blend in Whiskey close to being on the block and am stuck for ideas on ribbon colour. I have a Whiskey in beaver with a copper coloured ribbon (borrowed the idea from Moon) Love the look but dont want to repeat. What other colours have worked for you?
     
  12. scottyrocks

    scottyrocks I'll Lock Up

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    Howzabout brown?

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  13. belfastboy

    belfastboy Call Me a Cab

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    Perhaps i am making more of this than necesary.....but this is my grail hat and want it to stand as such.
     
  14. deadlyhandsome

    deadlyhandsome I'll Lock Up

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    I’d like to see your whiskey with copper. Depending on how your hat comes out, I’ll be asking for one of the mink blend hats too. The copper sounds very interesting.

    When you get away from the standard colors it gets risky. It’s hard to tell how it’s going to turn out. Can you make it to a fabric store with an existing hat in whiskey to drape ribbon over the hat to try different colors and tones? Even if you can only find cheap ribbon, you can send a sample to the hatter to see if he can match the color with some vintage cotton-rayon grosgrain or silk.


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  15. scottyrocks

    scottyrocks I'll Lock Up

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    Hey, I understand completely.

    I have also come to understand that a grail hat, for me at least, does exist, but does not exist. What does this mean?

    Because I have mine. It's the right colors, the right shape, the right vintage, the right feel - everything about it is perfect. Then I put it on my head, and not so much. Then I take it off my head and <swoon>.

    Yeah, I know it's nutty. Obviously the hat is not my grail hat, right? Nope, it is. But I just can't bring myself to wear it with any sort of regularity. It's too perfect, too valuable, too rare, too irreplaceable.

    Which is probably a blessing. I'd be a mess wearing it all the time - worrying about it - blowing off, getting misplaced, some moron in a bar or some such taking it off my head (not likely to happen, but still - and I never think about that wearing any other hat). It is the one hat I have that must remain as perfect as it is. So it mostly sits in its box.

    I have tried to replicate it with a new custom. It turned out great, but it's not nearly as heart-stopping as my grail hat. The color is not close enough, the felt is not close enough, the ribbon is not close enough, and the vintage is not there. It's a spectacular hat, but it's not grail territory. But I can wear it anywhere because it is completely rebuildable and replaceable.

    I am beginning the process of trying again, with a hatter who has a color closer to my grail hat. He will build it in a style that I want, my favorite style, in fact, but with slightly trimmed down proportions, specced by me, that will suit my face and head size and shape (I'm not a big guy).

    So I understand the whole 'making more of this than is necessary' thing. It's nutty, but kinda fun. :)
     
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  16. belfastboy

    belfastboy Call Me a Cab

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    That is a great idea. I have two huge fabric stores in my
    area. I am on the road fir another month or two. I think in an earlier Gannon thread Moon posted a pic of his Whiskey/Copper. Also i think Gannon shows it on his web or instagram. It is a classic and many here have borrowed it.
     
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  17. scottyrocks

    scottyrocks I'll Lock Up

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    From their website, here is Gannon's whiskey with what appears to be a copper ribbon:

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    Allowing for photographic differences, Gannon's Whiskey looks nothing like VS's Whiskey. So my suggestion in post #20032 can now be taken with a couple of grains of salt. But ultimately, you have to be happy with the final product. Anyway, hope this helps.

    And the color of this particular copper ribbon has now given me an idea for the hat I am in the process of speccing out.
     
  18. Zombie_61

    Zombie_61 I'll Lock Up

    Just to give you some idea of how different colors might look against the Whiskey felt:

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  19. Bill Hughes

    Bill Hughes One Too Many

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    Here is my Gannon Whiskey with copper.
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  20. enofile

    enofile New in Town

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