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This spring, I would like to buy my first Panama straw hat that is of good quality.
Upon doing a few initial searches, it appeared that most Panama straw hats are in the natural color of the straw with which they were made, yet a few are not.
Question: Why are Panama straw hats usually not made in colors other than natural straw colors? Supplementary: Does a hatter adding color to a Panama straw hat cause the straw to become weakened?
Upon doing a few initial searches, it appeared that most Panama straw hats are in the natural color of the straw with which they were made, yet a few are not.
Question: Why are Panama straw hats usually not made in colors other than natural straw colors? Supplementary: Does a hatter adding color to a Panama straw hat cause the straw to become weakened?
ven
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I was hoping to get some information on a hat I inherited from my Grandfather.
It is a size 7 "The Eagle" grey with a black ribbon by Mallory Hats. Original box and in extremely good shape. I am curious to know more about the hat, when it was made etc. I am planning on keeping it in the family but would like to be able to pass down the knowledge as well as an amazing hat
It is a size 7 "The Eagle" grey with a black ribbon by Mallory Hats. Original box and in extremely good shape. I am curious to know more about the hat, when it was made etc. I am planning on keeping it in the family but would like to be able to pass down the knowledge as well as an amazing hat
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Some old posts I copied and pasted from the thread, 1946: Stetson Acquires Mallory... but then what? ...this is an internet search. I didn't copy these from the FL threads directly so I'm not sure if this one is still on the list.
Pics of your hat, outside, inside liner, sweatband and logos on it, labels/tags hidden beneath the sweat will be great indicators for some of the experts here.
buler
08-12-2009, 05:05 AM
Some Mallory hats say since 1817, others say since 1823. Any idea as to why or when the switch?
I've been doing some research into Mallory and this is what I have so far. Unfortunately none of these dates coincide with 1817 or 1823.
Ezra Mallory born in Redding, Connecticut, 1785; ran a small scale hat shop in Great Plain in 1813; died 1845
In 1862 Ezra A. Mallory (son of Ezra) formed partnership with P.A. Sutton under the name P.A. Sutton & Company. Mr Sutton left in 1863 and Mallory continued under his name.
Established E. A. Mallory & Son, Inc. in 1878 with son Charles A. Mallory as partner thru 1883.
Became E. A. Mallory & Sons in 1883 when William E. Mallory (son) was admitted to firm.
Ezra A. Mallory retired in 1897.
H.B. Mallory (son of Charles A.) was taken into the partnership in 1900.
Mallory started advertising in 1906.
Cravenette water-proofing process (earliest ad I've found w/cravenette is 1906)
Front office address: 613 Astor Place, Cor. Broadway New York
Boston office address: 44 Beford Street
August 14, 1946 - Stetson aquired Mallory Hat Company
Mallory Hat Factory was located at Rose Hill Avenue, Danbury, CT (closed by Stetson in 1965); In 1968 Bieber-Goodman of Bethel relocated here as Danbury Hat Company, they closed on 12/18/1987. By 2000, all of the Mallory buildings at the northeast corner of Rose Street and Rose Hill Avenue were gone.
Atticus Finch
08-12-2009, 11:44 AM
A while back, after I bought a Mallory Open Road clone, I tried to learn what I could about The Mallory Hat Company. I found that, at one time, Mallory was one of the oldest hat makers in America, being even older than Stetson. Mallory was pruchased by Stetson in 1946 and Stetson continued to make Mallory hats, under the Mallory brand, until about 1965. During at least part of this period, some Mallory hats were branded "Mallory by Stetson". The latest Mallory advertisment that I have found is 1964, so I tend to believe that the brand was discontinued shortly thereafter.
Dinerman
08-12-2009, 06:37 PM
"Mallory by Stetson" hats were made by Stetson up until at least January 30 of this year, but it appears that they're redone their website and dropped them from their line. They were wool felt.
It seems that Mallory hats were made at least into the mid '60s simply as Mallory, that Mallory by Stetson started, at the earliest, in the 1970s.
carouselvic
08-13-2009, 08:48 AM
Stetson acquired Mallory Hat Co. of Danbury Conn. 8-16-46, but the companies were operated separately.
By 1964, Stetson had consolidated or eliminated much of its operation. Finishing and trimming operations farmed out to companies across America were returned to the Philadelphia plant, bring about the closing of the Lee factory in Danbury, Conn. and the Alexander factory in Reading, Pa. Seven hundred jobs were eliminated in this move.
(all the above taken from Stetson Hats by Snyder)
I do not know when or if Mallory was taken to Philly. The book has two photos of Stetson's union boss with Mallory displays from the 1960's. Mallory's name was (and is) licensed for many decades. Hatco could better address this.
Steven's in St. Joe got their furs for felt hats from plants in Danbury and Newark.
Pics of your hat, outside, inside liner, sweatband and logos on it, labels/tags hidden beneath the sweat will be great indicators for some of the experts here.
buler
08-12-2009, 05:05 AM
Some Mallory hats say since 1817, others say since 1823. Any idea as to why or when the switch?
I've been doing some research into Mallory and this is what I have so far. Unfortunately none of these dates coincide with 1817 or 1823.
Ezra Mallory born in Redding, Connecticut, 1785; ran a small scale hat shop in Great Plain in 1813; died 1845
In 1862 Ezra A. Mallory (son of Ezra) formed partnership with P.A. Sutton under the name P.A. Sutton & Company. Mr Sutton left in 1863 and Mallory continued under his name.
Established E. A. Mallory & Son, Inc. in 1878 with son Charles A. Mallory as partner thru 1883.
Became E. A. Mallory & Sons in 1883 when William E. Mallory (son) was admitted to firm.
Ezra A. Mallory retired in 1897.
H.B. Mallory (son of Charles A.) was taken into the partnership in 1900.
Mallory started advertising in 1906.
Cravenette water-proofing process (earliest ad I've found w/cravenette is 1906)
Front office address: 613 Astor Place, Cor. Broadway New York
Boston office address: 44 Beford Street
August 14, 1946 - Stetson aquired Mallory Hat Company
Mallory Hat Factory was located at Rose Hill Avenue, Danbury, CT (closed by Stetson in 1965); In 1968 Bieber-Goodman of Bethel relocated here as Danbury Hat Company, they closed on 12/18/1987. By 2000, all of the Mallory buildings at the northeast corner of Rose Street and Rose Hill Avenue were gone.
Atticus Finch
08-12-2009, 11:44 AM
A while back, after I bought a Mallory Open Road clone, I tried to learn what I could about The Mallory Hat Company. I found that, at one time, Mallory was one of the oldest hat makers in America, being even older than Stetson. Mallory was pruchased by Stetson in 1946 and Stetson continued to make Mallory hats, under the Mallory brand, until about 1965. During at least part of this period, some Mallory hats were branded "Mallory by Stetson". The latest Mallory advertisment that I have found is 1964, so I tend to believe that the brand was discontinued shortly thereafter.
Dinerman
08-12-2009, 06:37 PM
"Mallory by Stetson" hats were made by Stetson up until at least January 30 of this year, but it appears that they're redone their website and dropped them from their line. They were wool felt.
It seems that Mallory hats were made at least into the mid '60s simply as Mallory, that Mallory by Stetson started, at the earliest, in the 1970s.
carouselvic
08-13-2009, 08:48 AM
Stetson acquired Mallory Hat Co. of Danbury Conn. 8-16-46, but the companies were operated separately.
By 1964, Stetson had consolidated or eliminated much of its operation. Finishing and trimming operations farmed out to companies across America were returned to the Philadelphia plant, bring about the closing of the Lee factory in Danbury, Conn. and the Alexander factory in Reading, Pa. Seven hundred jobs were eliminated in this move.
(all the above taken from Stetson Hats by Snyder)
I do not know when or if Mallory was taken to Philly. The book has two photos of Stetson's union boss with Mallory displays from the 1960's. Mallory's name was (and is) licensed for many decades. Hatco could better address this.
Steven's in St. Joe got their furs for felt hats from plants in Danbury and Newark.
ven
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Thank you ,
Do you by chance know if there is a way to track down what time frame "The Eagle" was made? I am extremely new to vintage hats (as this is my first and only thus far) and am a little lost lol, I usually google things but like I said earlier there doesnt seem to be much about these hats...
, Do you by chance know if there is a way to track down what time frame "The Eagle" was made? I am extremely new to vintage hats (as this is my first and only thus far) and am a little lost lol, I usually google things but like I said earlier there doesnt seem to be much about these hats...
ven
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I might add that the inside rim of this particular hat says "established 1817 made in Canada" everything that I have found is for New York and US areas...
bowlerman
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What the heck is up with imageshack? A bunch of updates made it so that I'm not allowed to ever sign out, and I can no longer post photos here without them also being links to my entire imageshack library. Also, I can no longer control the size of the file during uploading, but rather it is necessary to resize on my computer before uploading.
Anyone know what's going on and/or why, or any solutions?
Anyone know what's going on and/or why, or any solutions?
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May have been a glitch, as I've just tested it, and its working as normal for me... I think the service is the same where ever you are[?].
Test upload... resized in IS.
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I was hoping to get some information on a hat I inherited from my Grandfather.
It is a size 7 "The Eagle" grey with a black ribbon by Mallory Hats. Original box and in extremely good shape. I am curious to know more about the hat, when it was made etc. I am planning on keeping it in the family but would like to be able to pass down the knowledge as well as an amazing hat
There are companies that make Panama hats in many colors. Here on the lounge the taste of users is for tradition natural.
http://stylesalvage.blogspot.com/2010/06/discovering-pitti-my-bob.html?m=1
My Bob is one of the more interesting companies designing contemporary Panama hats.
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hat colour? black suit, navy overcoat
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ven
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mooglesrcute
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I've been looking for a beanie like johnny's for awhile, haven't been able to find one. Anyone seen anything online or stumbled on something similar?
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yeah I stumbled on something like this is was sleeping in cardboard bow [-))
I was hoping to get some information on a hat I inherited from my Grandfather.
It is a size 7 "The Eagle" grey with a black ribbon by Mallory Hats. Original box and in extremely good shape. I am curious to know more about the hat, when it was made etc. I am planning on keeping it in the family but would like to be able to pass down the knowledge as well as an amazing hat
The majority of what we know about Mallory can be found in these two threads:
THE MALLORY MILE
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Straw Hat Stiffener?
Is it just premature senility or do I remember a Scout, Bickmore or Kahl straw hat stiffener?
All I seem to find is the felt sort.
Is it just premature senility or do I remember a Scout, Bickmore or Kahl straw hat stiffener?
All I seem to find is the felt sort.
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I am looking for help dating this hat. Our guess is 30's.
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Later.