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[SnappyHat]

Anyone know what brand or logo this might be ?
hat was unmarked inside but says custom made in the USA

 

[rogueclimber]

Anyone know what brand or logo this might be ?
hat was unmarked inside but says custom made in the USA

Artel is the only thing I come up with, but that was just searching the webs

 

[Frunobulax]

Anyone know what brand or logo this might be ?
hat was unmarked inside but says custom made in the USA

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/thoroughbred-hats.48764/

 

[RickP]

Anyone know what brand or logo this might be ?
hat was unmarked inside but says custom made in the USA

Id guess Thoroughbred... usually has "Hat with a Pedigree" in the label

 

[SnappyHat]

Id guess Thoroughbred... usually has "Hat with a Pedigree" in the label

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The hat inside the box was this one ,
says made in US but Aussie image in liner but to me doesnt really look like any Akubra i have seen. Emailed that company in the sweatband "Leos Western Wear" he literally wont give me info unless I tell him who the seller was and their address . I got this from goodwill btw. my question to him was could he tell me who makes this hat for his company. But you guys seem to narrowed it down thanks , Throughbred , at least for the box and reading here further a sub brand of Beaver hat company .

 

[Frunobulax]

The hat inside the box was this one ,
says made in US but Aussie image in liner but to me doesnt really look like any Akubra i have seen. Emailed that company in the sweatband "Leos Western Wear" he literally wont give me info unless I tell him who the seller was and their address . I got this from goodwill btw. my question to him was could he tell me who makes this hat for his company. But you guys seem to narrowed it down thanks , Throughbred , at least for the box and reading here further a sub brand of Beaver hat company .

I was going to mention that the hat and box aren't necessarily original to each other. However, I seem to remember the Beaver Brand hats which flooded eBay having that type of size/price tag. I think it tracks as a Thoroughbred.

 

[Beren]

Is there a difference today between 100% beaver and 100x beaver? I was informed today that there is a difference between 100X (silverbelly fur, taken from the center of the beaver's belly, where the fur is the softest), and 100% beaver (beaver fur from anywhere in the body).

I had never heard of this technical distinction between 100x beaver and 100% beaver. Is this common usage? Now I’m feeling ignorant.

 

[jeffgarf]

Is there a difference today between 100% beaver and 100x beaver? I was informed today that there is a difference between 100X (silverbelly fur, taken from the center of the beaver's belly, where the fur is the softest), and 100% beaver (beaver fur from anywhere in the body).

I had never heard of this technical distinction between 100x beaver and 100% beaver. Is this common usage? Now I’m feeling ignorant.

I believe that the X rating has lost all meaning in this era. I'm not 100% (see what I did there?) sure, but I think you can rely on 100% beaver to be just that, 100X, not as much.

 

[jlee562]

Is there a difference today between 100% beaver and 100x beaver? I was informed today that there is a difference between 100X (silverbelly fur, taken from the center of the beaver's belly, where the fur is the softest), and 100% beaver (beaver fur from anywhere in the body).

I had never heard of this technical distinction between 100x beaver and 100% beaver. Is this common usage? Now I’m feeling ignorant.

X system ratings are unreliable as they vary across both time and manufacturers.

Silverbelly, originally, referred to the lighter colored belly fur that appears on some beavers. It is said by Graham at Optimo that these make superior hats over regular 100% beaver bodies, and Optimo markets these felts as "silver beaver." Not too many people offer these bodies.

 

[Zombie_61]

I believe that the X rating has lost all meaning in this era...

Yeah, they switched it to "NC-17". Oh, wait, you meant...never mind.

 

[jeffgarf]

Yeah, they switched it to "NC-17". Oh, wait, you meant...never mind.

I suppose it would have been more accurate if I said that the X rating lost all meaning EVERYWHERE.

 

[belfastboy]

Is there a difference today between 100% beaver and 100x beaver? I was informed today that there is a difference between 100X (silverbelly fur, taken from the center of the beaver's belly, where the fur is the softest), and 100% beaver (beaver fur from anywhere in the body).

I had never heard of this technical distinction between 100x beaver and 100% beaver. Is this common usage? Now I’m feeling ignorant.

The **X's mean nothing except to the company marketing department. There is a significant price difference between beaver fur and beaver belly fur. It is an expensive upgrade when you commission a custom hat. Optimo of Chicago separate themselves by claiming to only use FEPSA beaver belly fur. Trust me when I state if it was beaver belly fur....the company would not be coy about stating that.

 

[Zombie_61]

X system ratings are unreliable as they vary across both time and manufacturers...

I have to agree. I've seen some manufacturers who thought three "X"s were good, others who used five, others who didn't seem to have a clue about how many to use, and one online photo I saw years ago showed a hat with a line of "X"s all the way around the sweatband. The lack of Quality Control in some industries is staggering.

 

[belfastboy]

The '**x's" are only used on mass produced hats as a marketing ploy.....they mean nothing now and very little when introduced. Only the manufacturer knew and usually they were not saying.

Every felt manufacturer I purchase from does not use **X's in their fur designation. It is either listed as 100% rabbit, 100% beaver, 100% nutria or some % of blend .... and the blend % is always stated.

 

[rogueclimber]

Every felt manufacturer I purchase from does not use **X's in their fur designation. It is either listed as 100% rabbit, 100% beaver, 100% nutria or some % of blend .... and the blend % is always stated.

I'm assuming you mean the felt you are purchasing.

As a consumer I have very seldom seen a blend % stated by the hat maker

 

[belfastboy]

I'm assuming you mean the felt you are purchasing.

As a consumer I have very seldom seen a blend % stated by the hat maker

Yes, I buy felts from the felt manufacturer. I am always clear on the quality I am purchasing. I also collect custom hats and I do have hats where the felt content is listed on the sweat. Never in the form of **X's but a plain statement of "100% beaver" or "50% beaver blend"

 

[rogueclimber]

Yes, I buy felts from the felt manufacturer. I am always clear on the quality I am purchasing. I also collect custom hats and I do have hats where the felt content is listed on the sweat. Never in the form of **X's but a plain statement of "100% beaver" or "50% beaver blend"

If only all of the large makers of hats could be so forthcoming, but no, they throw out a few **Xs and let us guess

 

[belfastboy]

If only all of the large makers of hats could be so forthcoming, but no, they throw out a few **Xs and let us guess

The cynic in me tends to think ...maybe they don't even know.

 

[Frunobulax]

Yeah, they switched it to "NC-17". Oh, wait, you meant...never mind.

Google " **X beaver."

Go ahead, I dare ya!

 

[drmaxtejeda]

Google " **X beaver."

Go ahead, I dare ya!

LOLOLOL. I've missed you!