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  1. belfastboy

    belfastboy I'll Lock Up

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    It depends on your outlook/inclination. It cost me nothing and I had fun doing it...took about an hour and a bit.
     
  2. Jacora

    Jacora Familiar Face

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    Let's not forget talent/skill, which in this domain you appear to have in far greater abundance than me. Your hour and a half would be my three days and a great deal of swearing! :)
     
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  3. belfastboy

    belfastboy I'll Lock Up

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    My only discernable talent is doggedness.
     
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  4. I’d never do anything like that myself, but I appreciate quirkinesses. I like knowing there are odd folks out there doing odd things. I like that we aren’t all the same and some folks march to a very different beat than I do. As long as we all respect each other and don’t infringe on others’ rights I say good for them!
     
  5. suitedcboy

    suitedcboy One Too Many

    I feel the same pain Soupman. They could have used all the Bear Bryant houndstooth plaid ones that they could find.
     
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  6. The Shoe

    The Shoe A-List Customer

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    3A3931EA-4BE8-4B9B-AF63-F3037E595690.jpeg Akubra fans... @johnnycanuck are you there?
    I suspect this hat, going for about $35, with seemingly no one interested is a Snowy River. What say you?
    No vents & plaited leather band (slightly different to the brand new Snowy River)
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    Unlined.
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  7. johnnycanuck

    johnnycanuck Call Me a Cab

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    Yes an older snowy River. I have one new from 2002-2003 ish and it has a newer band then that one. So very nice hat pre 2000. You used to be able to buy Akubra hats that people bought on vacation, threw in the closet when they got home, Forgot about, found, then listed on e-bay for a few bucks. This looks like a prime example of just that. A little moisturizer on the sweat band. Get it wet to re shape it. It will be good as new. Just be aware, a hat that old may have shrunk so you may need to give it a bit of stretching to get it back to a 60.
    Johnny
     
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  8. The Shoe

    The Shoe A-List Customer

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    Thanks, Johnny.
     
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  9. johnnycanuck

    johnnycanuck Call Me a Cab

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    Let us know if you manage to get it. My Snowy River has been a go to hat for years.
     
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  10. 1967Cougar390

    1967Cougar390 Practically Family

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  11. Silver-Wolf

    Silver-Wolf One of the Regulars

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    Hmmm,
    Just saw a beautiful supposedly 1920's Borsalino bowler for sale that looks brand new. Man so beautiful, has me thinking about it and I don't like bowlers lol. Such a gorgeous gold pleated liner, how are Borsalino for sizing. This one is a size 7, think it'd be too small for my noggin anyways.

    Sure does look purdy though!
     
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  12. Lefty W.

    Lefty W. One of the Regulars

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    Hat vocabulary: I just watched a video on the YouTube "Gentleman's Gazette" channel, in which the host says the top of the hat is known as the "pinch," also known as the "crease."



    starting at 1:32.

    My understanding is that the "crease" is the pattern on the top of the crown, being a center dent, teardrop, diamond, etc., and the "pinches" are the dents on the sides, where you might literally "pinch" the crown with your thumb and forefinger (although some say handle by the brim, not the crown).

    Is my understanding correct, or are the terms "crease" and "pinch" interchangeable?
     

  13. You’re correct. The crease/bash/crown shape is not the same as the “pinch.” Pinches are the side dents on the crown.

    I give these types of videos and websites a bit of leeway. They are not made for people who take their hats as serious as many of us here do. These primer videos and articles serve a purpose and hopefully get more men wearing hats, but they often contain small, or even large, errors.
     
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  14. Silver-Wolf

    Silver-Wolf One of the Regulars

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    FWIW I was brought up a crease and pinch were different, no doubt about it. Crease was upon the top of the crown a pinch or punch was sides of crown.
    Bash was a more common term, normally meant the crease but could include the pinch as well but never included the brim (kind of describe the whole style you give the top & side of crown). I was always told a pinch was the sides and a punch was directly in-front (like the Bush tucker man wore if you know of him, that was a fanny punch if I remember the term correctly (please forgive my rude term but that was how I was told)
     
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  15. Lefty W.

    Lefty W. One of the Regulars

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    DH, you are correct; these guys do give some good information, particularly in the other hat videos on their channel. The host's hat does look like it is about two sizes too small.

    Silver Wolf, I recall seeing the term "bash" when I first started reading posts on this forum, over 13 years ago. My take away at that time was that a "bash" was the shape given to a fedora or other type of dress hat, and a "crease" was the shape given to a western hat. Having lived all of my life in Texas, I was much more familiar with the "crease" charts shown in western stores, than the different bashes available on dress hats.
     
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  16. Silver-Wolf

    Silver-Wolf One of the Regulars

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    "Bash" is a Australian Slang term with many meanings, some of them opposites of each other. We're a strange lot no doubt lol.
     
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  17. I think “crease” and “bash” are used interchangeably. You will see westerns with factory branding as “Hand Creased,” but I think that has more to do with the nomenclature of the era more than some distinction from “bash.” I will say that most western felt takes more effort to shape and it doesn’t feel like you’re “bashing” the felt when working on the shape.
     
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  18. Rmccamey

    Rmccamey Call Me a Cab

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    I know nothing about Borsalino bowlers but based on my very limited experience, I have found many pre-war bowlers run 1 to 1/2 size smaller (U.S.) than they are labeled. As bowlers don't stretch like other hats, it might be helpful to get exact length and width dimensions from the seller.

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  19. Silver-Wolf

    Silver-Wolf One of the Regulars

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    Thanks for the advice, I think I'll let it find another home. Bit small for me and with Christmas around the corner have enough spending to be done for now lol. Thank you for the info and confirming my thoughts...Still nice hat and gorgeous liner to say the least.
     
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