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belfastboy

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No real consensus on this. Some folks do, some don't. Most of our vintage hats are rabbit or rabbit blends....not many are 100% beaver. Most of my hats get worn regularly....for dress and or for kicking around. I do have a few beater hats that I wear if working/sweating and a few that are purely for dress but those are new custom made. The only vintage hats I own that get babied are my 2 1950's pristine Borsalinos. The rest have to earn their keep.

One other aspect to keep in mind is that good fur felt is very forgiving.

Decent fur felt hats can be used/abused AND refurbished back to almost new. I follow a number of western custom hat makers that also do refurbs. Some will post before/after pics of them transforming a hat that was dumpster material and bringing it back to like new.....it borders on the miraculous. My thought is; wear them, enjoy them and when/if the time comes send them out for a refresh.
 

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Awesome, thank you guys, I just got my vintage Open Road and really want to wear it for every day normal stuff, just didn't know how much I should baby something like that, I know it's not super rare or anything, but still special to me. :)
I have cheap beater hats that are special to me...doesn't make sense but then it doesn't have to. Take care of your hat. When it gets wet let it dry at room temp placing it gently in an area where it won't be crumpled or deformed. It will not deform in just the drying if you set it down gently. Once in a while give the leather sweat some conditioner. Give the hat a regular brushing with a hat brush....not a brush with stiff bristles . It will wear the fur prematurely as it abrades the hat with each brushing. Buy some Scout brand spot remover for the 'oh shit' times you get a stain on it. And enjoy!
 
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Awesome, thank you guys, I just got my vintage Open Road and really want to wear it for every day normal stuff, just didn't know how much I should baby something like that, I know it's not super rare or anything, but still special to me. :)
This was my first "real" (quality) hat. Akubra Fed IV, so modern production:

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Not vintage (which by most accounts is much better felt) but, as you can see, ten years worth of wearing, re-creased a few times, soaked through the felt in a few heavy rainstorms, and no obvious signs of it's age. Hell, I think it looks better now. I'm a little disappointed, actually. I like "beater" hats, and I bought this hat hoping it would be one by now. No such luck, and considering the excellent conditions of some of the vintage hats I've seen here on The Lounge I'm thinking I'll be dead and gone before this one even begins to look like a beater. :(
 

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This was my first "real" (quality) hat. Akubra Fed IV, so modern production:

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Not vintage (which by most accounts is much better felt) but, as you can see, ten years worth of wearing, re-creased a few times, soaked through the felt in a few heavy rainstorms, and no obvious signs of it's age. Hell, I think it looks better now. I'm a little disappointed, actually. I like "beater" hats, and I bought this hat hoping it would be one by now. No such luck, and considering the excellent conditions of some of the vintage hats I've seen here on The Lounge I'm thinking I'll be dead and gone before this one even begins to look like a beater. :(
OK so the Akubra held up quite well… How the heck did YOU not age in ten years!?!?!
 

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I'm sure this has been answered a million times but a quick search didn't reveal what I was looking for. Do most on the forum wear their vintage hats on a regular basis? I understand a vintage beaver felt is not going to be your kick around the job site kind of hat, but do you worry too much about dirt and weather and day to day wear and tear on vintage hats?
I wear mine every day, sometimes a different one every day. If it is raining hard, I bring out the Akubra, but otherwise my vintage hats are on. My ORs and Strat get the most frequent use. Ironically, the newer (2015) Stetson that I bought that started the hat thing with me gets the least wear, to the point that I am thinking of selling it. They are made to be worn, and with reasonable care they hold up to steady use.
 

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If you ever want to see some really fabulous rare vintage hats get put through their paces to work…. I recommend any of the posts by @Short Balding Guy Eric very much believes his vintage hats should be used for the purpose intended and not locked away in a box. While I do admire him for this… and do my best to wear mine well…. I still get a bit nervous at the idea of trimming trees in nearly flawless 70 to 80 year old hats.
 
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Anyone have an opinion of Selentino (Tonak) hats? JJ Hat Center is selling them almost exclusively due to supply chain issues with other brands.

Here are some pictures of two of their hats. They're priced $250-350. I personally stay away from any hat brand which puts the bubble in the center crease. It seems to tell me that they're catering to the amateur audience, since most similarly priced center crease hats from brands like Akubra, Stetson, and others don't have the bubble in the crease, they just make the crown a bit taller.

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Lately I’ve been paying attention to this crown style, the forward slope, is there a term for it? And any good makers that offer this style? https://willowlanehats.com/products...LV5_gVmdFzENaQ6djdg8tFCIU6RGv3MBoCRy4QAvD_BwE
My personal favorite crease, as @jlee562 mentioned above often referred to nowadays as the "Gus" crease after Robert Duvall's character Gus McCrea in Lonesome Dove. If you're already familiar with how to steam and shape felt hats you can convert other hats to this style.
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I re-creased both of these, 90's 5x Stetson in the forefront had a lower crown and barley allows the crease and fit my noggin inside. The older 80's 7x Resistol in the back has a taller crown an thusly allows a more dramatic slope.
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This 90's 4x Resistol George Strait was also redone by me,this is my beater work hat and no longer has any of the usual western stiffness. In fact I can just about roll it up and stick it in my pocket and it returns to this shape readily.
 

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Anyone have an opinion of Selentino (Tonak) hats? JJ Hat Center is selling them almost exclusively due to supply chain issues with other brands.

Here are some pictures of two of their hats. They're priced $250-350. I personally stay away from any hat brand which puts the bubble in the center crease. It seems to tell me that they're catering to the amateur audience, since most similarly priced center crease hats from brands like Akubra, Stetson, and others don't have the bubble in the crease, they just make the crown a bit taller.
If you use the google search...'The Fedora lounge, selentino' a number of reviews should come up. I know I have read a few over the years. A mixed bag if I remember correctly.

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Anyone have an opinion of Selentino (Tonak) hats? JJ Hat Center is selling them almost exclusively due to supply chain issues with other brands.

Here are some pictures of two of their hats. They're priced $250-350. I personally stay away from any hat brand which puts the bubble in the center crease. It seems to tell me that they're catering to the amateur audience, since most similarly priced center crease hats from brands like Akubra, Stetson, and others don't have the bubble in the crease, they just make the crown a bit taller.

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I’ve owned/own several of them. The lower grade models such as the Sterling are not very impressive, but the top of the line hats are nice…if you like the styling. The low tapered crowns and smaller (2 3/8” is common) brims are not to my liking, but the felt is usually nice. Even the low end Sterling is better than the Stetson Royal line.

If you like the looks, shape, and proportions of these hats there isn’t anything wrong with them and they are better than lots of other hats out there.

Check out this thread:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/czech-republicans-tonak-huckel-no-name.36821/page-13
 

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Often referred to as the Gus crease.
Many western hat makers offer this. Stetson has one or two off the rack hats blocked like that, IIRC.

A NOS Stetson Beaver 100 - before and after - S4.jpg Sout1.jpg - crease and pencil curl by Art Fawcett. It is something like a Gus but with a little less rake. The original design was from a picture of Steve as Tom Horn.


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