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Discussion in 'Hats' started by D00R, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. Hat Masterson

    Hat Masterson Familiar Face

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    Interesting that it's for the French market and I have it. Hmmmm. Thanks for link, Steur. Escapade. I wonder about what year it is?
     
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  2. steur

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    I should make that a bit wider: Meddens was actually a Dutch clothingstore chain (I thought the name sounded familiar). Founded in 1830 and the last one closed in 2011.
    meddens.jpg

    I have two of these Escapade hats myself, which I have down as sixties hats, but I think they started making these earlier, probably from the mid to late fifties on.
    flechet escapade granit_6.jpg flechet escapade_7.jpg
     
  3. Hat Masterson

    Hat Masterson Familiar Face

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    Those are nice. Mine has the same material--seems almost like a Selentino Queen--but a same-felt, and thinner, ribbon. Perhaps its earlier than yours?
     
  4. deadlyhandsome

    deadlyhandsome I'll Lock Up

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    I’ve not been impressed with my US made Flèche hats. The French made hats are a whole different (nicer) animal. Good get.
     
  5. Gazman G.

    Gazman G. New in Town

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    Recently bought a Stetson online but all the seller could tell me about it is that he purchased through an Estate Sale.Also might mention that these are the seller's pics not mine. I know it's probably a bit premature but Would very much appreciate all or any information on this great old Stetson. Will upload more detailed pictures when it arrives. Also might help to mention that I'm in Australia so it's fair to say that it may not be U.S. stock.Thanks.
     

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  6. hatsRme

    hatsRme I'll Lock Up

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    Have you read any of the Stetson dating threads? Ought to be an easy thing. My guess: ca 1970
     
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  7. Rmccamey

    Rmccamey Call Me a Cab

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    In the Links to Important Hat Thread thread, there are several threads on dating based on liner info, size tag, sweatband stamps, etc. Going tnrough that info might help. More closeup pictures of all those details will be needed as well. Your size tag looks like a late 50's to early for 60's to me but I am only a novice historian here on the lounge.
     
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  8. Gazman G.

    Gazman G. New in Town

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    Thank you will definitely have a look. I also own a Stetson straw fedora,but it's brand new.
     
  9. The Wiser Hatter

    The Wiser Hatter I'll Lock Up

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    A 60’s Stetson it’s a hat not much more. If you are just starting to get into Fedora wearing it is a tip toe into the water. An as you progress in your knowledge and pick you a 30 or 30 ear Stetson this hat will set on the shelf and not be worn much. [emoji3]
     
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  10. Gazman G.

    Gazman G. New in Town

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    Yes my knowledge will grow as will my love for the Stetson,but this "hat" will be worn and yes sometimes shelved,but never forgotten.
     
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  11. Just Daniel

    Just Daniel Practically Family

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    Nice! The other threads for Stetson dates do have a ton of information you’ll get to know well, but looking through it all can be quite daunting.

    From what I have seen, clues from earliest to latest:

    1) the platic liner would indicate ‘52 at the earliest,
    2) the black sweat and the size tag indicate late 50s
    3) the liner crest is most likely early 60s

    Enjoy the hat, and welcome to the Lounge! From my little time here everyone is nice and happy to share information with fellow addicts!

    Daniel


     
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  12. carouselvic

    carouselvic I'll Lock Up

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    What I see is it is foreign made and the criteria for dating it is very different compared to American Stetsons.
     
  13. deadlyhandsome

    deadlyhandsome I'll Lock Up

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    The photos lack the resolution needed. It would also be helpful to have photos of any labels etc. that are behind the sweatband. Is this a Canadian hat? Is it a German contract hat? You don’t provide enough high resolution photos for much accuracy.

    From the style, I’d guess it was a 1970s to 1980s hat, but it could be a 1960s. It certainly looks like a specimen made after the decline in quality hat making.

    You’d do well to spend some hours looking at the various dating guides. Also don’t be surprised or offended if one of the bartenders (site moderators) merge your thread into an existing thread; it happens to us all.

    https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...to-discuss-the-age-of-your-vintage-hat.30350/




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  14. moontheloon

    moontheloon I'll Lock Up

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    that is not a US produced Stetson therefor none of the dating clues most are going by apply

    this is a post 60s hat to my eye ...
     
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  15. Just Daniel

    Just Daniel Practically Family

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    Great point Vic, I was figuring that but figured on taking a quick shot to help.

    Also it could be pieces and parts of various innards-

    Daniel


     
  16. moontheloon

    moontheloon I'll Lock Up

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    highly unlikely
     
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  17. GWD

    GWD One Too Many

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    Based on the liner and style, my best guestimation is 60's - 70's.
     
  18. Frunobulax

    Frunobulax

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    April 9, 1969 at 2:50 PM. It was the next to last hat off the line that day before the shift ended.

    Sent directly from my mind to yours.
     
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  19. deadlyhandsome

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    I thought I recognized old Stanley’s work; no one sewed in those cheap quasi leather sweats like he did.


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  20. moontheloon

    moontheloon I'll Lock Up

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    can't really base dating on style when a hat made out of the US because they did not follow American trends

    you will commonly see European hats that are dead ringers for 60s or 70s US hats and you find out they were made in the 1940s

    but I do agree with your dating
     

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