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  1. Blare

    Blare My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Indeed
     
  2. belfastboy

    belfastboy I'll Lock Up

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    Don't know where to post this but TODAY is the premier of the new movie..."The Cowboy Hat Movie"/ It is opening at the Montana Film Festival and tickets can be purchased today online. There is a website for the movie with links to purchase and a movie trailer. Looks like great fun.
     
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  3. Rmccamey

    Rmccamey Call Me a Cab

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  4. belfastboy

    belfastboy I'll Lock Up

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    What a fun and informative movie. Nothing earth shatteringly new but a great overview of the cowboy hat history. Only cost $5 and well worth the 75 minutes run time.
     
  5. HuangCheng

    HuangCheng New in Town

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    WechatIMG450.jpeg WechatIMG451.jpeg How to know if a Stetson from 40s or 50s?
    I found two of my stetsons both have same style size tag, but difference inside.
    Or any details shows it's from 40s?
    I believe I can learn here.
     
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  6. I think that white inventory/size tag in the first pic started in 1952 (or thereabouts) based on what I have read on the forum.
     
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  7. Rmccamey

    Rmccamey Call Me a Cab

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    About when did Resistol drop the Byer Rolnick labelling?

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  8. I believe it was 1968, but I’ve also read 1967.
     
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  9. Rmccamey

    Rmccamey Call Me a Cab

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    Excellent, thank you Brent.

     
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  10. BIGG SHOW

    BIGG SHOW Familiar Face

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    Hello all,
    Just looking for a few thoughts on whether or not The Akubra Banjo Paterson lid lends itself to the look of a quote on quote cowboy hat. Yes, I know it’s technically not one but... what is the overall style it “shouts out” if that makes sense? Anyone?

    Cheers!
     
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  11. HuangCheng

    HuangCheng New in Town

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    Thanks man, So the red size tag inside should be 40s?
    I guess that after I have more Stetsons,Do we have any article on forum?
     
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  12. I think it all depends on how you shape it and wear it. There isn’t anything that defines a western...more of the “you know it when you see it.” Put in a cattleman’s crease and pair it with western garb and it’s a western. I think the leather hat band precludes it from being a “fedora” or dress hat, but it’s roots are in the outdoorsy adventure hat vein and that is the look that comes most naturally to it. To me, on its own and how I usually see them shaped it doesn’t look like what I think of when I hear “cowboy hat.”
     
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  13. Have you looked through the “Links to Important Hat Forum Threads?”
     
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  14. belfastboy

    belfastboy I'll Lock Up

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    Yes, I agree with this. To me they sit in a separate category between Fedora and Western.... I wear mine for outdoorsy activities in the fall and winter. Hiking, out and about in the rain.....kind of Country Gentlemens hat. I have that type of hat with both leather band and ribbon. The ribbon gives it a slightly more 'dressy' look than the leather.
     
  15. dkstott

    dkstott One of the Regulars

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    I definitely don't think it has any western feel to it. My Banjo Patterson is my hiking, yard work and general purpose hat
     
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  16. jlee562

    jlee562 I'll Lock Up

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    To Joe Public on the street who doesn't know anything about hats? Maybe.

    To anyone in Australia or somewhere where Cowboy hats are common? Not likely.
     
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  17. Silver-Wolf

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    To us Aussies it's a country/bush hat style hat that's only a little bit cowboy/western depending on if you style it that way.

    It is a little bit dress/little bit work as I think it's from the Akubra Heritage range which is a slightly different felt to the normal hard wearing imperial. Not what most stockman or ringers would wear but some may, maybe more for going out though than for work.

    That said here in Australia we don't really call the style of hat your talking about as "Western" or Cowboy", we refer to them as Outback or Stockman hats mostly, maybe Ringers/Drovers. little more complicated here and it kind of depends how deep into the outback you go. When referring to if it's a mans or woman's western/cowboy hat we'd call it a Jackaroo or Jillaroo's Or maybe a Bloke or Sheilas.

    Also a lot of stockman don't style their hat in the typical "Western" as alot of Aussies don't curl up the sides of the brim, some do but whats more common is the front and back bent and worn really low. Those that do style "western" more from American influence and the idea of cowboy/western.

    So a lot of urban Aussies or what some refer to as New Australians would find the Banjo Paterson interesting and relate to it as an Aussie hat because of the historical value of the name given to it. Banjo Patterson Was an Aussie bush poet, a well known figure from history here but not really outback or anything to do with cattle other than his poetry, most people don't even know he was actually a solicitor. But he did enjoy the bush, that's different to the open planes outback
     
  18. johnnycanuck

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    Short brim, flat brim, tapered crown, oval crease with front dents. No I don’t think anyone in North America would mistaken the banjo Paterson with a cowboy hat. Possibly a fedora but not cowboy. I always thought of it as the Akubra/Australian version of the Stetsons Open Roads intended market. Cattle boss, little country/little city. Not very Yee Hah if you know what I mean.
    Johnny
     
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  19. Silver-Wolf

    Silver-Wolf One of the Regulars

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    Well put, it's a good hat and certainly a popular one. Good all rounder and a nice felt too being heritage.

    While not being that different in size the Coolabah would be more outback/stockman styled, slightly higher crown (gets real hot outback)center crease where as from memory the Banjo is kinda of tear drop and pinched. Coolabah slightly wider brim and is one of my fav Akubra's. Harder wearing and stiffer being the imperial felt, no idea if they put more shellac into the differing felts or not.
     
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  20. BIGG SHOW

    BIGG SHOW Familiar Face

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    Thank you all for the input. It is appreciated.

    Cheers!
     
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