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Bambolina · Jun 18, 2018

I looked behind the sweatband, no dice.
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Bates - New York

Stingy Band Fedora

I pushed the crown out, because it we thought that's how it was supposed to be... It had just a concave cicular bowl on top, no other creases, or things do the front/side/back... It was just all the way around smooth, like a dog's water dish on top.

I'm probably going to re-form that shape evenly and put it back. We thought perhaps it was done that way, but not original to the style.

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Zombie_61 · Jun 19, 2018

Bambolina said:
...I pushed the crown out, because it we thought that's how it was supposed to be... It had just a concave cicular bowl on top, no other creases, or things do the front/side/back... It was just all the way around smooth, like a dog's water dish on top.

I'm probably going to re-form that shape evenly and put it back. We thought perhaps it was done that way, but not original to the style.

This Fedora Lounge is the real deal! Wow, so many helpful comments & lightning quick too!

Since your daughter likes the hat so much, perhaps you could show her examples of how hat crowns are shaped (commonly known as the "crease" or "bash") to see what she likes, then shape the hat that way; it would make the hat uniquely her own. As if you hadn't already surmised, you'll receive plenty of help, advice, and suggestions from the members here if needed.

And welcome to The Lounge!

P_Lawl · Jun 30, 2018

Big fan of Stetson hats, especially the Open Road and just getting into good quality fedoras. Brand new to the forum and trying to ID a hat. Any help would be much appreciated.

To me, this looks like it could be a Stetson Runabout or Temple. I'm trying to look at the profile, crow and pinch.

Many thanks,

deadlyhandsome · Jun 30, 2018

Looks to be on the stingy end of the spectrum with a low and tapered crown. Any chance of getting photos of the sweat, liner, size tag, and any tags that might be hiding behind the sweat?

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jlee562 · Jun 30, 2018

Brim is too short and the ribbon too thin to be a temple.

If we're just guessing hats out of the Stetson line, my money is on the Lamont. 2 1/8" brim, bound edge, sage.

https://mikethehatter.com/collections/stetson/products/the-lamont

no affiliation with that site, just the Google hit that came up.

P_Lawl · Jul 3, 2018

Thanks. Any other makes you think it could be? Stetson got back to me and it sounds like it isn't a Stetson... "the closest thing in our line would be..."

Also digging this look. Think it's a Latte Milan, although the ribbon is a different color and seems too thick.

deadlyhandsome · Jul 4, 2018

P_Lawl said:
Thanks. Any other makes you think it could be? Stetson got back to me and it sounds like it isn't a Stetson... "the closest thing in our line would be..."

Also digging this look. Think it's a Latte Milan, although the ribbon is a different color and seems too thick.

I’m not sure I’m getting where you’re going. Are you after a hat that looks like the one that guy in your photos is wearing or do you want the exact hat? I can follow you on the first, but I don’t understand wanting the exact same hat if you can’t tell it apart from another of a different brand.

Your photos don’t show enough to positivity determine what make and model it is. Lots of makers have very similar hats to this. Check out the hat-co public website and look through the listings of their brands. If this is a vintage hat, something similar should be easy to find and cheap as stingy brims are not all that popular and don’t bring the money that the Golden Age hats with wider brims do. You can also send your photos to a custom hatter and have them make you a duplicate.

Good luck.

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jlee562 · Jul 4, 2018

Uhh....well, there's at least three hats between all the pictures you posted. The most recent one is a Milan straw, but I don't think it's the Latte (which I own). You definitely did post pictures of a felt hat earlier.

The thing is, even if it is a Stetson, I would not be surprised if they couldn't ID it. That preblocked crown shows up in any number of hats. Maybe it's new, maybe it's old. Without seeing the liner and sweat, we can't even say it's a Stetson.

I still stand by my earlier assessment. The Lamont looks like it fits the bill with approximately the same proportions between ribbon width, crown height, and brim width.

deadlyhandsome · Jul 4, 2018

jlee562 said:
Uhh....well, there's at least three hats between all the pictures you posted. The most recent one is a Milan straw, but I don't think it's the Latte (which I own). You definitely did post pictures of a felt hat earlier.

The thing is, even if it is a Stetson, I would not be surprised if they couldn't ID it. That preblocked crown shows up in any number of hats. Maybe it's new, maybe it's old. Without seeing the liner and sweat, we can't even say it's a Stetson.

I still stand by my earlier assessment. The Lamont looks like it fits the bill with approximately the same proportions between ribbon width, crown height, and brim width.

I agree. Wether it’s the exact same hat or not, the Lamont has the same look and proportions. I also agree that the Stetson Co. (Hat-Co) would not be a good or reliable way to identify the hat even if it was one of theirs.

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JoshuaGrossman · Jul 14, 2018

Hey all. I have a few Akubra fur felts and a vintage Stetson fur felt, so this isn't my first time to the rodeo--but it's summer and I'm looking for my first Panama hat. While hopefully someday soon I'll own a few Brent Black hats, I'm on a bit more of a budget right now. I certainly want a leather sweat band and can add a ribbon later if needed--however I don't believe there is a single person in Ohio that can stamp a hat. As of now I'm leaning towards Panama Hats Direct Fino grade ($155)--but would love something vintage and am open to suggestions. I might even have a friend who does leatherwork and can add a sweat band, but am unsure how that would affect sizing? I've got a 7 1/8 or 57 size noggin. Any other suggestions? I was especially swooning over this: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh9MkR8ndHT/?taken-by=moontheloon

Thanks!

Barbara Slater · Jul 21, 2018

Hi, can anyone help me date this Cavanaugh Edge Fedora? I've done some research on Google and eBay and still not sure of its age. I think its somewhere around the 60's or 70's. The store "Miller & Rhodes" printed in the sweatband has been closed for years so that helps date it some but I'd love to know more about it. I've attached several photos...scroll down to see them all. I paid $2 for it at a thrift store... Thanks!

Redfokker · Jul 22, 2018

I think you are right on with 60s/70s. The Hatted Professor website has a Cavanagh dating section. Great find on a stingy. I don't see a size tag. Are there any manufacture tags under the sweat?

Mustang Mike's Hats · Jul 23, 2018

I think it may be earlier than 60's. That sweatband bow looks older than '70's. I had the guys here check mine and we came up with around 1959. The Union label (should be under the size tag) might be another clue.

macduff · Jul 23, 2018

Is anyone able to give me ANY information on this type of hat? It was my Grandfather's and the box it came in has a stamp with the date 1953 on it and is 7 1/8 in size. I don't know the kind/type of hat it is (Bowler?) and if it holds any value or should be tossed. I sincerely appreciate any and all help!

BobHufford · Jul 23, 2018

macduff said:
Is anyone able to give me ANY information on this type of hat? It was my Grandfather's and the box it came in has a stamp with the date 1953 on it and is 7 1/8 in size. I don't know the kind/type of hat it is (Bowler?) and if it holds any value or should be tossed. I sincerely appreciate any and all help!

I'm not familiar with the brand, but that is a Homburg and it does have some value (though I'm not the guy to pinpoint the amount). Does it fit you? If so, you should wear it!

deadlyhandsome · Jul 23, 2018

macduff said:
Is anyone able to give me ANY information on this type of hat? It was my Grandfather's and the box it came in has a stamp with the date 1953 on it and is 7 1/8 in size. I don't know the kind/type of hat it is (Bowler?) and if it holds any value or should be tossed. I sincerely appreciate any and all help!

Great looking homburg. I’m not familiar with the brand either, but unless it’s something rare and unusually valuable, it’s value is in something to wear rather than collect. Photos of the leather sweatband markings, and any labels under the sweatband, will be useful in identifying it.

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Zombie_61 · Jul 24, 2018

This web page is mostly about the Bardsley building in New Brunswick, but it contains a little information about the family:

"Bardsley Building is also recognized for its association with Bardsley family. The Bardsley’s operated a family-owned business that spanned five generations. The Bardsley brothers occupied this building from the time of its construction about 1881 until about 1890. The company had begun operations in 1849 and ceased operations in 1976. The Bardsley family were an important part of the fashion scene of Saint John and their hats became known all over the world. The third generation of the Bardsley’s were brothers Robert and Joseph who operated their store at this location until the Great Saint John Fire of 1877. The brothers had the present building rebuilt soon after the fire and occupied the east side of the building until about 1890. The hard or “bowler” hat became popular at the time and they manufactured these on the premises. When the business closed, they had a list of 20,000 customers with their style and size of hat on file."

Based on this, I'd think the name alone might have some historical significance to certain collectors. Or maybe not. Either way the hat appears to be in very good condition, so it most definitely should not be "tossed".

Chris McCollum · Jul 26, 2018

Hello all! SOOOO happy to have found this site. I love hats. But alas, I am a giant with a huge head (7 3/4 - 8 depending on manufacturer). So I don't have many.

I'd like to have one like the pics below made. Anyone know what kind it is and where I can have one made or buy? I'm curious if its just a wide brimmed, rolled edge fedora or something else.

deadlyhandsome · Jul 26, 2018

Chris McCollum said:
Hello all! SOOOO happy to have found this site. I love hats. But alas, I am a giant with a huge head (7 3/4 - 8 depending on manufacturer). So I don't have many.

I'd like to have one like the pics below made. Anyone know what kind it is and where I can have one made or buy? I'm curious if its just a wide brimmed, rolled edge fedora or something else.

Lots of hatters can make you a hat like the one in your photo. VS, Buckaroo Hatters, Northwest Hats, etc. you can give them specs or just the photo and let them loose.

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Mustang Mike's Hats · Jul 26, 2018

My daughter is making those for her millennial friends! She says they're "millennial hats". (what does she know, right?). If you want her contact info, LMK and I'll connect you. She seems to make a lot of larger sizes 7 5/8_to size 8. I guess millennials have bigger heads?!??

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