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Discussion in 'Hats' started by Lefty, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. You might want to start out with just a bandana. Pugs are not as easy to make as you think. You can buy the kind of pugs you are talking about making pretty cheap:

    https://www.shushans.com/sixthpage.html

    To make a good pug requires a lot of cutting & sewing to get the pattern to work. They are often made from neckties. Check out the old posts of MikesPens here on FL. He has some beautiful pugs on his Panama's. I think some of them were made for him by Bob at BSHW from ties & other fabric Mike provided. Not easy to do if you want something nice.
     
  2. Bcraig

    Bcraig Familiar Face

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    I cant imagine not wearing a hat or a cap when outside as I have been doing so for over 50 years.
    Helps to keep the sun out of a mans eyes and off his head and rain off the head and out of the eyes as well.
    Plus if you have to take your hat off you may have hat hair but that is better than looking like you combed your hair with a firecracker because of the wind.

    Thanks for the links
     
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  3. tsores

    tsores Familiar Face

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    On some hats the brim goes out straight from the crown while others have quite a curl(?) to them. What is the proper term for that curl?
     
  4. drmaxtejeda

    drmaxtejeda I'll Lock Up

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    Which brands had a "100" hat?
    I know that Dobbs, Stetson, Knox, Churchill, MacLachlan, Cavanagh, Resistol, and Bailey did.
    Were there any others?

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  5. Steinbockhase

    Steinbockhase One of the Regulars

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    There are numerous hat brands that sell 100% wool :)
     
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  6. Tukwila

    Tukwila One Too Many

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    I have a few 100x hats.... VS, Gannon, NW Hat Co, Penman.... :)
     
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  7. jlee562

    jlee562 My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Depends.

    Older bowlers might have a D'orsay curl. See Brad Bower's in depth history at: http://www.thehattedprofessor.com/derbydeconstruction.html

    Other than just calling it a "curled brim" the most common terms are pencil roll and kettle curl. The former being a smaller curl where the edge of the brim points upwards. The latter curling the brim over until the edge points back to the crown.
     
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  8. Zombie_61

    Zombie_61 I'll Lock Up

    Jared/jlee isn't wrong, but I think he might be referencing brim curls that are more specific than what you're thinking of. In general, that upward "curl" as you get closer to the outer edge of a hat's brim is formed on a wood forming block known as a "flange":

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    The crown of the hat goes through the hole in the center (upside down), the brim is formed to the shape, then it's usually covered with some type of cloth and tied with string/twine to hold it in that position until the felt takes the shape of the flange. These flanges are made in varying sizes and shapes so hatters can create a variety of brim shapes. As such, that upward curl on a hat's brim is often referred to as "the flange" and, depending upon the amount of upward curl, can be referred to as having a "shallow flange", a "deep flange", or anything in-between. On a fedora with a deeper flange it's easier to snap the front of the brim down because the shape puts a bit of tension on the felt, which helps to hold it's shape. Shallow flanges equal less tension, so the brim on a "shallow flange" hat won't snap down or stay in that position as easily.
     
  9. drmaxtejeda

    drmaxtejeda I'll Lock Up

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    Jeez, Z, thank you!

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    Just Daniel A-List Customer

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    drmaxtejeda I'll Lock Up

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  12. Bcraig

    Bcraig Familiar Face

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    I cant imagine not wearing a hat or a cap when outside as I have been doing so for over 50 years.
    Helps to keep the sun out of a mans eyes and off his head and rain off the head and out of the eyes as well.
    Plus if you have to take your hat off you may have hat hair but that is better than looking like you combed your hair with a firecracker because of the wind.


    Thanks for the links[/QUOTE]
    I got the Sunbody hat Saturday ,I got the ventilated open crown 5 1/2 inches tall and had them cut the Brim down to 3 inches and put a Khaki edge on it and a light blue 5/8 hatband.
    I put a center crease on the hat with a crown pinch about 2 inches wide.
    I first tried a height of 5 inches for the front of the crown,too high ,next I tried a 4 3/4 inch height and looked pretty good,then I tried a 4 1/2 inch crown height and my wife liked that the best so for now anyway that is where it will stay.
    fairly shallow dents.
    I am to get several different colored bands.
    Thinking about trying a 7/8 band.
    What do you think ? View attachment 156954 IMG_0968[1].JPG [​IMG][​IMG]
     

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  13. Xylophile

    Xylophile One of the Regulars

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    Here's an observation about the vented crown: if the crown pushes down on your hair then the venting may not be as effective as you'd like. My hair stands up straight and i had to steam a pushed up crown in my Akubra Country Club, after that the breeze would go through the hat and through my hair which I noticed was more comfortable as I could then feel the breeze go over my scalp. And, when its hot its just hot and that's that regardless of the hat!
     
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  14. Peters Brothers:

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  15. AbbaDatDeHat

    AbbaDatDeHat I'll Lock Up

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    ^^^PB makes Fortys and Fiftys too.
     
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  16. And a Seventy Five (older Bankers Special or just cheaper?).

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  17. codyiscool

    codyiscool New in Town

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    is it faded? It hasn’t seen a lot of sun. I just wear it backpacking. It’s seen snow and rain. Is it possible to get it back to be more brown?

    https://imgur.com/gallery/ufKt57Q
     
  18. carouselvic

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    looks dirty to me....try cleaning it with a hat sponge and a vac.
     
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  19. hatsRme

    hatsRme I'll Lock Up

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    Of course Vic is right! It looks like it needs a good cleaning, but it should be fine then. From your description, my bet is you might have broken a sweat, that is beaded up on the brow a bit there, bro, resulting in salt deposits in the felt. Like this one!

    Looks almost broken in!
     
  20. codyiscool

    codyiscool New in Town

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    Is that how ppl clean these? I’ll look up hat sponges
     

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